992 GT3 GT3-RS
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Three Wheelin'
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992 GT3 GT3-RS
Fodder for discussion but, larger displacement, NA GT3-RS and, manual transmission in GT3. Article says the information is from soon-to-retire 911 product line chief August Achleitner.
https://www.motor1.com/news/302249/p...t3-rs-details/
Dan (nitpicks and wants the 991 cup holders back)
https://www.motor1.com/news/302249/p...t3-rs-details/
Dan (nitpicks and wants the 991 cup holders back)
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Race Car
Surely will be awesome. I'm sure Porsche will separate me from more of my money when the 992.1 GT3 arrives.
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Sounds good to me
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It would be very welcome if Porsche wake up and smell the coffee and produce a more focussed, stripped back 992 GT3 - they won't and there will be endless threads on the 992 GT3 forum about stitching, PTS, value, touring versions etc - my eyes bleed, my ears bleed when I look at those threads - numbing.
Last edited by groundhog; 02-06-2019 at 08:50 AM.
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It would be very welcome if Porsche wake up and smell the coffee and produce a more focussed, stripped back 992 GT3 - they won't and there will be endless threads on the 992 GT3 forum about stitching, PTS, value, touring versions etc - my eyes bleed, my ears bleed when I look at those threads - numbing.
People don't want "more focused, stripped back" models because for the most part most people don't use GT cars for serious track duty -- and, really, if you are going to be doing serious track duty might as well get a real track car and dispense with the notion of a mixed-used street legal track car, which is what a GT car is. And has a mixed used car, it needs to have certain creature comforts (i.e., deviated stitching), otherwise it's won't sell because it is a mixed use car.
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EV new car sales are about 1.5% of all new cars in the US. Many cars stay on the road for 10+ years. My guess is gas stations are very much here in 10 years.
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The problem with a "more focused, stripped back" whatever model, GT3 or RS or whatever, is that it won't sell. Exhibit A is the Cayman R and to some extent the 911T (don't let the fervor for the T on Rennlist fool you, it's not a top seller for PAG).
People don't want "more focused, stripped back" models because for the most part most people don't use GT cars for serious track duty -- and, really, if you are going to be doing serious track duty might as well get a real track car and dispense with the notion of a mixed-used street legal track car, which is what a GT car is. And has a mixed used car, it needs to have certain creature comforts (i.e., deviated stitching), otherwise it's won't sell because it is a mixed use car.
People don't want "more focused, stripped back" models because for the most part most people don't use GT cars for serious track duty -- and, really, if you are going to be doing serious track duty might as well get a real track car and dispense with the notion of a mixed-used street legal track car, which is what a GT car is. And has a mixed used car, it needs to have certain creature comforts (i.e., deviated stitching), otherwise it's won't sell because it is a mixed use car.
The reason I made this comment in the first place is because I have been looking for a used .2 GT3 clubsport as a starting base for a track/r. rally car - virtually every car I have looked at has been hit with a long list of add - ons e.g. full leather, sofas etc - I'm simply not prepared to pay for other peoples mistakes/fit out for something I basically want to gut (if I can't get my hands on one of these I'll probably settle for the GT4 with clubsport pack as a base - assuming its offered with PDK). Pleas note in my market a GT3 costs $USD300k.
A stripper clubsport would make a good base car for the small percentage of us that are actively in engaged in amateur motorsport (the front part of the cage can be ordered from Porsche motorsport and left in the frunk for later install - thus Porsche designed and FIA approved roll cage) . However, its clear that the current and most probably future versions of the GT3 have a very different target market relative to the 996 GT3 and 997 GT3.
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I'll put it another way, Porsche could offer a stripped back GT3 (or RS) for those that specifically wanted a more track (or other) orientated car or a base car to develop further, this would not affect those that wanted PTS, full leather, deviated stitching and maximum sofas. It would be very easy for Porsche to do this - a clubsport stripper, if you like.
The reason I made this comment in the first place is because I have been looking for a used .2 GT3 clubsport as a starting base for a track/r. rally car - virtually every car I have looked at has been hit with a long list of add - ons e.g. full leather, sofas etc - I'm simply not prepared to pay for other peoples mistakes/fit out for something I basically want to gut (if I can't get my hands on one of these I'll probably settle for the GT4 with clubsport pack as a base - assuming its offered with PDK). Pleas note in my market a GT3 costs $USD300k.
A stripper clubsport would make a good base car for the small percentage of us that are actively in engaged in amateur motorsport (the front part of the cage can be ordered from Porsche motorsport and left in the frunk for later install - thus Porsche designed and FIA approved roll cage) . However, its clear that the current and most probably future versions of the GT3 have a very different target market relative to the 996 GT3 and 997 GT3.
The reason I made this comment in the first place is because I have been looking for a used .2 GT3 clubsport as a starting base for a track/r. rally car - virtually every car I have looked at has been hit with a long list of add - ons e.g. full leather, sofas etc - I'm simply not prepared to pay for other peoples mistakes/fit out for something I basically want to gut (if I can't get my hands on one of these I'll probably settle for the GT4 with clubsport pack as a base - assuming its offered with PDK). Pleas note in my market a GT3 costs $USD300k.
A stripper clubsport would make a good base car for the small percentage of us that are actively in engaged in amateur motorsport (the front part of the cage can be ordered from Porsche motorsport and left in the frunk for later install - thus Porsche designed and FIA approved roll cage) . However, its clear that the current and most probably future versions of the GT3 have a very different target market relative to the 996 GT3 and 997 GT3.