Originally Posted by S.White

Well, that's not what I said at all but okay. The tuner shop is not tuning an engine or building components for a specific racing class. Porsche Motorsport is building for a specific racing class and therein lies the biggest difference to say it simply. The focus of the Porsche Motorsports development resources will be put towards things that can generate more advantage per dollar than the competition. If the competition has power limited in the same fashion as the Porsche teams or has power limited down to the Porsche team, you can bet most of their money will be focused on aero, tire management, and fuel management. Building up an engine that could make 30-40-50% more than it will ever see in competition is a waste of resources and would not be competitive due to that. So, they don't (in your words) "try very hard" on that aspect and instead "try very hard" on the things that can net them more advantage per $.

The tuner shop hasn't made a 15% improvement yet but have made projections that would net 15% improvement on WHP (475whp) on the 991.1 GT3 with the modifications I mentioned. 15% HP improvement on the 991.2 GT3RS would net (you guessed it) 598bhp! You should look up their Instagram account. You might be impressed with what a small tuner shop with the right personnel, technology, and market can accomplish in today's world.

Originally Posted by signes

Time to stop digging Herr White...

Originally Posted by CAlexio

Here's a "rumor" for you. : the 992 GT3 will have integrated "Michelin Track Connect" where based on temperature sensors in tires you will receive information on optimal individual tire pressures. No more guessing at pressures, you know exactly how each tire is doing thereby allowing you to maximize tire life and performance on the track. this will be integrated into PCM display and with onboard systems, gt3 will be one of the first cars in the world to have this system fully built-in to the car. Other tire suppliers scrambling as they effectively get locked out. More on this at Geneva. Ciao.

Originally Posted by Sunny_M3

How did a GT3 Rumors thread turn into Dundon vs. Weissach? People will buy whatever parts they want and it's up to each manufacturer to stand by their claims. Now lets all shake hands and grab a beer!

Originally Posted by Gravs

That article is not surprising. Evolutionary improvements. Also it's a while off yet with GT3 a way from launch. I think there may be some sort of surprise bigger than they know about.

Originally Posted by smartbot

Originally Posted by Guest89

I know all about Dundon; I've met Jamie more than once. Nothing against the company but I often wonder why people buying these expensive cars are so credulous.

Tell you what, I'm headed to Daytona tonight. If I see Fritz Enginzer or the aforementioned Pascal Z. over the weekend (I expect to; they usually eat dinner in the Hospitality suite vs. the team tent on Saturday night) I'll pull this thread up and encourage them to bring the Dundon "Motorsports" team in house.

I'm also prepared to walk the paddock and ask every customer Porsche GTD team why they aren't using Dundon "Motorsports" exhausts instead of the one those second rate twits in Weissach designed.

Originally Posted by Guest89

I'm poking fun at the guy because he made an astonishingly bold (and, frankly, ridiculous) claim and then just kept digging his hole deeper and deeper vs. admitting that he talked out of his ***.

Originally Posted by Guest89

I know all about Dundon; I've met Jamie more than once. Nothing against the company but I often wonder why people buying these expensive cars are so credulous.

I'm also prepared to walk the paddock and ask every customer Porsche GTD team why they aren't using Dundon "Motorsports" exhausts instead of the one those second rate twits in Weissach designed.
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Originally Posted by S.White

The sound limitations can be overcome with rev limiters and electronic valves. Same with tuning for fuel and emissions. Who said anything about a 4 year 50,000 mile warranty? The 600bhp goal posts seem to be moving now...

We've seen time and time again, 5% (or more) increases coming during each production refresh cycle from Porsche and other manufacturers without much in the way of changes in architecture or displacement. To think a 15% increase in power isn't possible with the current platform much less to think it is absurd is ignorant to what has happened throughout history and what is happening now through the advancement of computer simulation.

Originally Posted by signes

Time to stop digging Herr White...

Originally Posted by CAlexio

Here's a "rumor" for you. : the 992 GT3 will have integrated "Michelin Track Connect" where based on temperature sensors in tires you will receive information on optimal individual tire pressures. No more guessing at pressures, you know exactly how each tire is doing thereby allowing you to maximize tire life and performance on the track. this will be integrated into PCM display and with onboard systems, gt3 will be one of the first cars in the world to have this system fully built-in to the car. Other tire suppliers scrambling as they effectively get locked out. More on this at Geneva. Ciao.

Originally Posted by S.White

While you are at the race, if you see Andreas Preuninger ask him what he meant by his astonishingly bold and ridiculous statement that he made in an Autocar interview saying that the new 4.0 engine could make more than 600hp when unrestricted.

Originally Posted by GrantG

He said "spinning away on the test bench". He meant with race camshaft profiles to make power over 10,000 rpm, race exhaust, race intake with 6 throttle bodies, race fuel, and with no regard to longevity (probably over 10,000 rpm - maybe just last the length of one Sunday afternoon race?). It was likely an RSR motor that probably cost more for just the motor than an entire GT3 road car and would likely have poor behavior on the street with lower revs...

Originally Posted by CAlexio

It wasn't though.. he said it was the stock engine they put 180,000km on it.