Most Absurd Logic: Someone talk to Porsche about this
#46
It seems like they could have just carried over the new Panamera shifter, which has "manual" mode and better placement of the park and brake buttons, although the brake button probably has to be elsewhere to accommodate the MT shifter. This is a crude render but it seems like it could have worked, so why remove the manual shift feature that so many like and some really need when the paddles aren't in the right place...
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#50
Rennlist Member
I would not mind the loss of this capability for normal road driving too much, but it's when you start to do the crazy stuff like drifting on a frozen lake that this is a huge, huge problem. You can't keep track of which paddle is where when your steering wheel is 273 or something degrees turned and you're looking out the window to look where to aim the car. These cars are actually used for this sort of thing, not least by Porsche's own driving schools, and for a 911 to have such a huge flaw for performance related driving is unbelievable.
#51
Burning Brakes
^ Now where's that "Like" button again...?
#52
Perhaps the “P” button has something to do with Jeep and Anton Yelchin...
https://money.cnn.com/2016/04/22/aut...all/index.html
https://money.cnn.com/2016/04/22/aut...all/index.html
#53
No you can't... that would be dumb. Imagine the amount of people who would accidentally shift their car into reverse if that was the case!
#54
No you can't. (And it would have been pretty bad if you had to get out of M mode first before you could put the car in reverse, imagine the situations that would cause)
I would not mind the loss of this capability for normal road driving too much, but it's when you start to do the crazy stuff like drifting on a frozen lake that this is a huge, huge problem. You can't keep track of which paddle is where when your steering wheel is 273 or something degrees turned and you're looking out the window to look where to aim the car. These cars are actually used for this sort of thing, not least by Porsche's own driving schools, and for a 911 to have such a huge flaw for performance related driving is unbelievable.
I would not mind the loss of this capability for normal road driving too much, but it's when you start to do the crazy stuff like drifting on a frozen lake that this is a huge, huge problem. You can't keep track of which paddle is where when your steering wheel is 273 or something degrees turned and you're looking out the window to look where to aim the car. These cars are actually used for this sort of thing, not least by Porsche's own driving schools, and for a 911 to have such a huge flaw for performance related driving is unbelievable.
#56
Maybe, but I'm guessing what that does is the same as when in the current PDK cars you push the shifter to the left, so it is now 100% in manual mode and it won't shift without the paddles (except of course when you coast to a stop the transmission no doubt moves to 1st).
#57
Maybe, but I'm guessing what that does is the same as when in the current PDK cars you push the shifter to the left, so it is now 100% in manual mode and it won't shift without the paddles (except of course when you coast to a stop the transmission no doubt moves to 1st).
#58
Rennlist Member
And I already checked with my sales specialist
porsche just lost a new 911 sale with this new monstrosity
#59