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Old 11-30-2018, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by red route 1
It seems like they could have just carried over the new Panamera shifter, which has "manual" mode and better placement of the park and brake buttons, although the brake button probably has to be elsewhere to accommodate the MT shifter. This is a crude render but it seems like it could have worked, so why remove the manual shift feature that so many like and some really need when the paddles aren't in the right place...
Doesn't the button with the "M", right next to the "Park" button, put the transmission in manual mode?
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Originally Posted by fgv1it
Doesn't the button with the "M", right next to the "Park" button, put the transmission in manual mode?
I think he means you can't use the shift lever to shift gears anymore.
Old 11-30-2018, 09:50 AM
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Porsche Beijing studio refreshed the car...... the new 996
Old 11-30-2018, 09:55 AM
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I think he means you can't use the shift lever to shift gears anymore.
And that is my point - if the transmission is in manual mode, I bet you CAN use the lever to change gears. Just tap it forwards or backwards.
Old 11-30-2018, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by fgv1it
And that is my point - if the transmission is in manual mode, I bet you CAN use the lever to change gears. Just tap it forwards or backwards.
No you can't. (And it would have been pretty bad if you had to get out of M mode first before you could put the car in reverse, imagine the situations that would cause)

I would not mind the loss of this capability for normal road driving too much, but it's when you start to do the crazy stuff like drifting on a frozen lake that this is a huge, huge problem. You can't keep track of which paddle is where when your steering wheel is 273 or something degrees turned and you're looking out the window to look where to aim the car. These cars are actually used for this sort of thing, not least by Porsche's own driving schools, and for a 911 to have such a huge flaw for performance related driving is unbelievable.
Old 11-30-2018, 11:24 AM
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^ Now where's that "Like" button again...?
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Perhaps the “P” button has something to do with Jeep and Anton Yelchin...

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Originally Posted by fgv1it
And that is my point - if the transmission is in manual mode, I bet you CAN use the lever to change gears. Just tap it forwards or backwards.
No you can't... that would be dumb. Imagine the amount of people who would accidentally shift their car into reverse if that was the case!
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Originally Posted by JCviggen
No you can't. (And it would have been pretty bad if you had to get out of M mode first before you could put the car in reverse, imagine the situations that would cause)

I would not mind the loss of this capability for normal road driving too much, but it's when you start to do the crazy stuff like drifting on a frozen lake that this is a huge, huge problem. You can't keep track of which paddle is where when your steering wheel is 273 or something degrees turned and you're looking out the window to look where to aim the car. These cars are actually used for this sort of thing, not least by Porsche's own driving schools, and for a 911 to have such a huge flaw for performance related driving is unbelievable.
That wouldn't be a problem if the paddles were fixed to the steering column like a proper sports car... but you know...... sigh...
Old 11-30-2018, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by stealthpilot
This is the most hysterical thread I have read. Park brakes are triggered by pulling up. And who the **** drinks coffee in a 911. Is this the car you drive to the McDonald's for a sausage McMuffin and a cup of Joe?
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I do? It's my daily driver...

That being said, I still don't have any issue with the design changes being discussed in this thread
Old 11-30-2018, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by fgv1it
Doesn't the button with the "M", right next to the "Park" button, put the transmission in manual mode?
Maybe, but I'm guessing what that does is the same as when in the current PDK cars you push the shifter to the left, so it is now 100% in manual mode and it won't shift without the paddles (except of course when you coast to a stop the transmission no doubt moves to 1st).
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Originally Posted by red route 1
Maybe, but I'm guessing what that does is the same as when in the current PDK cars you push the shifter to the left, so it is now 100% in manual mode and it won't shift without the paddles (except of course when you coast to a stop the transmission no doubt moves to 1st).
No... it's just a toggle to switch between reverse, neutral and drive. Plus it's too small to use as a shift lever.
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Originally Posted by OHWHATDA
Rich old men having nervous break downs over car shifters. Do we need more posts about this? If you're not a fan of the 992, the 991.2 is still for sale, and those forums are that way.
not if I want a fall 2019 european delivery its not
And I already checked with my sales specialist

porsche just lost a new 911 sale with this new monstrosity
Old 11-30-2018, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Crester
No... it's just a toggle to switch between reverse, neutral and drive. Plus it's too small to use as a shift lever.
Right, was answering the question about the M button...
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