Originally Posted by lamacan

i literally referenced the two things you bring up as better in the Porsche. you're right. but Turbo S is also the least exciting/emotional 911 Porsche makes, even if its stats are great on paper.

Originally Posted by Acropora8

wat???

Originally Posted by ipse dixit

Don't argue with the man, he's punch drunk on Porsche Kool Aid.

By his definition, a Turbo S would simply be a tuned base Carrera 4.

And a GT3 a detuned Turbo S.

Go figure.

Originally Posted by elvisdoc

Many are saying this. Read the article I linked.

Originally Posted by ipse dixit

Don't argue with the man, he's punch drunk on Porsche Kool Aid.

By his definition, a Turbo S would simply be a tuned base Carrera 4.

And a GT3 a detuned Turbo S.

Go figure.

Originally Posted by Acropora8

You're basing your unthoughtful opinion off of a "culture" writer from the New York Sun who also has written articles about 3d printed shoes, massage guns and bed cooling equipment. Pretty comical.

https://www.nysun.com/author/ross-anderson

Originally Posted by Engro

We should welcome other products since it means there is competition which is a healthy thing. Without Nissan-GTR pre 991, Porsche would have kept the same formula. Porsche was forced to respond to the GTR and it delivered with the 991 platform. I remember the arguments were the same back then. it’s a ****ebox, gaps in trim, it’s bloody Nissan, etc.. etc. Porsche is the greatest and the best 😀

it’s almost as bad as the McLaren fanboys that consider 911 second tier and their car the pure race car. Ask them last time they tracked the car and they get upset. There is a car for everyone and we should not consider the ZR1 any less of a car. I would not own a ZR1 but I see no issues with people that want one or discuss one here.

Originally Posted by luv2sleep

^^^^^^
Yes, competition is a good thing! I hope Porsche does step up their game. I’ve never owned a Vette or even a Chevy product but the new Z06 and now the ZR1 definitely got my attention. Perhaps the Vette in general is not as reliable but a good majority appear to be decent or otherwise Corvettes won’t sell, right? Porsche quality, as of late, doesn’t have my confidence. I’ve owned numerous cars like many of y’all but my first lemon will be a Porsche. Now I’m having second thoughts on our Cayenne GTS order. Anyways, I just find it funny that some of the “brand loyal” folks on here are so insecure and juvenile. What are you guys….like 12?! I’d understand if they posses an ounce of Ferdinand Porsche’s genes but highly doubt it.

Originally Posted by elvisdoc

It’s an Internet forum. U are shocked people disagree? Hilarious.

Originally Posted by luv2sleep

Pot calling the kettle black. Dude, you have a reading comprehension problem and an inferiority complex. A true basement keyboard warrior on the spectrum.

Originally Posted by elvisdoc

Don't have a basement and your learned opinions interest me not at all. I just find it funny you come to a TTS forum at all since you don't like the car much. How about we agree to disagree and keep the petty name calling out of the discussion.

Originally Posted by Ensoniq

Meanwhile, over on the corvette forum…

a dealer with 2 allocations (one left) is asking for $305k

Originally Posted by luv2sleep

Who says that I don't like the TTS?! Yeah, reading comprehension and a hint of dementia.......

Originally Posted by Foosh

If someone said any dealer has ZR1 "allocations," or if the dealer implied they did, they're either lying or don't understand what the term allocation means in GM-speak. An allocation is a slot for an order to be accepted for production, and once that order is accepted, the car is scheduled for a tentative production week (TPW). Allocations for Corvettes are usually granted about 2 months before the car actually gets built.

The car was just revealed last week, and it won't be in production until 1st quarter 2025 at the earliest. A GM-insider friend also told me it's possible production won't start until near the end of the 2025 MY to fulfill GM's commitment that the first models in customer hands would be 2025s. There are only about a dozen prototypes built, thus far. No one has been given allocations yet.

Oh the allocation hype! From my experience, anyone can get one if one digs deep into his/her pocket. Dealer lists have been created, which are meaningless to GM, and they won't grant allocations to dealers until the production schedule is firm.