Azzurri GT3

So found a new TTS, but 40k ADM.

I'd like to pay MSRP, but finding one on a lot that's new with no ADM is basically 0.

J Crew

Yep... 0

That $40k premium seems to be in the ball park with other dealers.

Azzurri GT3

Do I wait 2 years and pay MSRP or pay a premium and get to drive now and trade it in when I want something new a few years down the line.

Also, who knows where the market will be in 2 years,.

J Crew

I think 2023 is the last year of the gas-only powered engine. So some of the decision will depend on if you want a hybrid Turbo S or not.

Azzurri GT3

I'm not against it, but I'd prefer an ICE w/o electric

milrad

I ordered from my dealer last summer, got the allocation by October. $2500 deposit, MSRP, no ADM. Now that it has arrived, I also have to sign a 12-month dealer ROFR to get the car. I'm quite annoyed by this, but there really isn't another option to still get the car.

J Crew

1 year from date of order? Or 1 year from being added to the list?

I agree that I would be annoyed as well, but it seems like that would be hard for them to enforce.

milrad

1 year from being added to the list - paid my deposit in August 2021. I think I was 3rd at the time, but the two in front of me wanted the Sport Design package that got put on hold, so I got to jump over them when they passed.

The first car was built in December/January and then got torched on the Felicity Ace. So this one is the second version, minus the painted exterior package.

J Crew

Ahh, I see. That make more sense... jumping a couple of people will definitely help out haha. Glad you were able to snap one up at MSRP! My closest dealer is another state away and they only got one TTS last year... SA said maybe two this year! I don't have a choice but to pay up to get one. But I'm okay with it because it's my dream car!

sechsgang

I dont see a problem with a ROFR at ALL if you're paying MSRP for the car. They want you to have the car because you want it, not because there's upside. I actually would be happy if ALL dealers did this so people have to think whether they want the car, or the cash grab opportunity more...

milrad

I generally agree, but I guess I'm looking at it differently in this case 1) because this was not in place at the time the deal was made and 2) my first car got torched and Porsche's response was basically "Oh well. Sorry, we will make you another one. Except you can't have all the things you had on the first one. Too bad you agonized for 2 months over the exact spec." Not even a damn hat for the inconvenience.

So yes, I'm not too happy about how I have been treated. And since I sold my daily once the TTS was on the ship (my choice, I know), I've been a little put out.

I could have just refused the car. Almost did. But I didn't, so here I am, with a "not quite right" car and a limitation of what I can do with it.

shrimp money

In regards to FROR, who gets to decide the value of the car? If market is $250k and dealer says they’ll only give $125k?

milrad

It's at MSRP. They can decline to buy it, or they can buy it back at MSRP. No downside for them, only upside, because for sure they will resell it at whatever premium to MSRP that the market will bear.

Best case for me is that I get to drive a car for up to a year for only the operating costs. Worst case is I eat all the depreciation if I want to sell and the market has dropped.

So their position is "even" or better. Mine is "even" or worse.

crazyrob

Chevy dealers are getting $50k ADM for Z06’s at this point.

It’s a mad, mad world.

hcvone

Many scumbag dealers taking advantage, I am happy to say my dealerships that I order my Corvette's from they do not play those games