rk-d

Sounds like the GT3 forum has no clue. lol.

That said, paying over sticker on a TTS is a big mistake.

Frankly, I wouldn't pay over sticker on a GT car either, for that matter.

indianam3

DeviousDog, SUPER SUPER SUPER! Exactly what I am looking for. As I stated originally, I am not purchasing the car, just advising on price. Whether the buyer wants the car, how bad, how he negotiates, etc., etc., etc, all up to him. I wasn't looking for he should or should not buy it, trying to help him price it! This is perfect. I have a couple more emails like this, so I am good! None are this good though. A car the same color similar spec sold 3 days ago! You are a genius! Thx!

Joan Alcover

I ordered mine in october 2020 and got a 12.76% discount on official fully loaded RSP (that includes a total of 23.85% of taxes, levies, pollution penalties and other niceties).
So the dealer actually discounted 16.76% (12.76% divided by 100% minus 23.85%) on the RSP before taxes.
But the RSP here in Europe is higher than in the US!
And the dealer I purchase from is 100 miles further away from my place than the dealer closest to me (10 mile)

In short: don't pay more than sticker price and negotiate a discount like hell! ESPECIALLY ON THE ADD-ONS (OPTIONS)!!!

Sorcerer 11

If you want one now then you are likely to pay over the odds. Seems like a global demand thing, as here in the UK some are up for sale at dealers for well over new price because they are in short supply at present.
Some just want one now so they will pay the price......I wouldn't, but then, I already have mine.

redyps

Tell your buddy to make an offer 4% under MSRP. This car may be on consignment and the original owner is looking for a profit. If he counters you will know the 'real money' on the car. Remember the dealer has at least 7% profit built into the MSRP. And dealers here in the US are looking for at least 4% on the sale of a consignment car.

JimmyDee

If he loves the spec of the car, and wants it right now, and he can afford to pay the premium... then why not?
However, if the car is black and he really wants red, then I would submit that he is going to regret buying it... very quickly.
(the colors are just an example. My point is that; he needs to love the car - not compromise)

I agree that the car will depreciate - but it's going to depreciate whether you pay full sticker price, or slightly more.
A premium (or even a depreciation loss) in a year or two will quickly be forgotten, if he truly loves the car.

Performance stats and everything aside; People buy these cars based on emotion.

• How does the car make you feel when you're standing there staring at it?
• How does the car make you feel when you're behind the wheel of it?
• How does the car make you feel when you're rolling-up to your buddy's house in it?

If your friend had a restless night's sleep, thinking about all these things... then the slight premium is probably worth it to him.

rodsky

I assume he wants it - otherwise he wouldnt be thinking about paying top $. These cars are hard to get. I don't think the supply will loosen for at least 6+ months. I personally wouldn't pay over sticker. But some of the posters here don't really know anything about the TTS market. To offer $175 is implying he doesn't want it - cos that aint gonna get a deal done.

Given its not new or an ordered car - I would be in the MSRP to -2 to-5% range. Unless its his dream spec/color and he's just gotta have it today.

lpw016

I ordered a 992 turbo s cab in oct 2020 on an allocation in the US. I called three different dealers that had allocations at the time and none would budge of msrp.

The new/used car market is crazy. Regardless of how you look at it, the car is going to depreciate. If you can afford $250k you can afford another $5k premium.

I’ve never paid msrp for a car until now, and never this much before on one before either.

however the time in my life is right for the purchase, and to be honest, I’d pay a little more than msrp to get the car I’ve always wanted.

ive got my financial house in order and my kids college funded and my retirement. I’m going to leave them some money, but I’m going to start harvesting the fruit of the trees I planted 15 years ago.

it’s just money. When I’m 80 yrs old, I won’t care about the money I have saved up, but I will love the memories of driving such a magnificent machine!

997usa

the concept is simple: supply & demand. As long as there are no or very few allocations, the dealer can ask whatever they deem appropriate... it is up to us mortals to accept, or to wait for it.

997usa

He may as well offer to take it for free.... get real.

CubsFan1

Assuming this isn’t the first +$200k car this person will have considered purchasing. Why not simply rely on ones personal experience to answer his own question(s). You want something now that’s in demand and short supply you’re going to pay for it. Set a budget, make offer and be satisfied with the outcome.

JimmyDee

The suspense is killing me... Did he buy it?

TuonoR

I'd be less focused on a small premium to sticker than the depreciation curve of a modern turbo. If he's good with what the car will probably be worth in 12-24 months, $5k + / - to drive the car he likes today is a rounding error. Life is short...

indianam3

Will let everyone know as soon as I know. Thx!

indianam3

The deal did not go through. Seller would not agree to a price at or below original MSRP. Car sold to someone else, I can only assume at or above MSRP.