abiazis

with the 992.2, they may create the sports exhaust with the quad tips based on that comment being stated quite frequently by members here and elsewhere.......quads whether silver or black are more distinctive to the Turbo models.....the duals are on multiple models........

rk-d

I ultimately decided on PSE after driving around with the PSE switched off on my Carrera. I just strongly preferred the PSE. It's probably a ripoff, but what can you do?

I do think the black PSE tips fits in with what I'm doing, but the exhaust tip/body panel situation is the only real failing Porsche has had with this car. It would be nice for a bespoke look for the Turbo models. Otherwise, I really like what they've done with this generation, looks wise.

ER911S

Related to the extra Tupperware, I had asked Manufaktur how much they would charge to paint gloss black the diffuser with the quad exhaust. I will not share the number they gave and the dealer will just paint it when they do the downpipes and program the button.
Downpipes + programming + painting of diffuser will still be cheaper than the PSE option

LSM111

The big question is Porsche shipping the newer ones with OPF that mutes the exhaust to the USA. Guess that would defeat the purpose of paying for a PSE system.

BMW has gone so far as installing updates which significantly mute the exhaust for USA cars without the OPF

Tupper

I would not have been happy without PSE

Having said that, I still want better sound. A bit louder and throatier, but not too much, as well as turbo spool sound. You don't hear the turbos AT ALL just with PSE.

As a few people here know I've been weighing Akrapovic slip on race line, versus keeping PSE and getting Sports cats. Being that money doesn't grow on trees, I'm trying to get the best bang for $3500 and don't want to buy both (sports cats AND a new catback exhaust)

Sports cats + PSE seems like the best and most cost-effective combo..............but damn, it's still a pricey upgrade!

NVRANUF

I agree, the $3k US-$4k Cdn for just 200 cell Sport cats is a price gouge, but it's the route I will have to go also with PSE.

Pad Bender

This probably a full Capristo exhaust with non-PSE tips.

Pad Bender

I was looking at 200 CEL Sport Cats as well...definitely not cheap but doesn't just throw the PSE away.

Rocket_boy

For any order I really sit down and think about pros and cons of options - and and weigh them against the cost. Yeah, maybe a bit ridiculous on a $200K car, but I do it.

When I had my '15 GTS - I had sport exhaust and Burmester - and loved both of them. Sometimes I would just drive and listen to the exhaust - other times I'd be jamming (music lover here)
I'll just go ahead and say it - the Turbo 911s (at any level) just don't have the best of sound period. Pales next to the NA GTS, and most other cars out there. Just about anything else is better.
My '19 Turbo is decent sounding when in Sport - but nothing to write home about - it surely won't win any exhaust contests at a stoplight.

The option of PSE on the 992 is a good one - but yes, it's a ripoff. Unless there is $3k of gold inside the muffler - there will only be a different pipe, routing or something minor inside to change the sound.
Most likely Porsche deleted obstructions from the PSE muffler - making it louder . Less for more $ is a Porsche way of life lately. I would really like to have an example of each and cut them apart. My guess
is about $20 difference. At least with Burmester you get much better speakers, amps, etc. - something that IS different.

If I ordered today I'd be getting Burmester and non-PSE to be replaced later with something different and more worth the monies - IF I can find one that sounds decent, otherwise I'm just going to leave it. There will be lots of
"louder" exhausts out there - but few may actually sound good. I would really like to see the aftermarket come up with a better valance though.

mscott1987

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the fact that some modern cars pump out artificial engine sounds through the speakers. That could be where OP is hearing the unnatural sounds coming from. I think the sound of an engine should only come from the engine. Speakes are for music especially if you option the burmester. I wish the PSE was available with the quad tips because they are a signature feature of the TTS and the carrera duel tips just don't do the rear end justice.

mscott1987

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned the fact that some modern cars pump out artificial engine sounds through the speakers. That could be where OP is hearing the unnatural sounds coming from. I think the sound of an engine should only come from the engine. Speakes are for music especially if you option the burmester. I wish the PSE was available with the quad tips because they are a signature feature of the TTS and the carrera dual tips just don't do the rear end justice.

Pad Bender

My understanding is that the Porsche "Sound Symposer" is a deliberate sound channel from the rear that is not through the speakers. That works for me...still analogue.

https://www.porsche.com/usa/aboutpor...iew/article06/

redyps

It is widely known in McLaren circles of the sound tube entering the cabin...

mscott1987

Wow thanks for the article Pad! Very interesting stuff. I'm a bit of an audiophile so sound is my jam... My first sales rep that actually left the company last week told me verbatim that there was sound pumped out of the speakers in the 992 TTS. Shows how much he knew and it makes me glad I have a new and more enthusiastic sales rep assisting me. Can't wait to hear that new Burmester in action with the 855w amp, dual center speakers and new amt ribbon tweeters. Only 4 more months!

JeanLouis33

On my third Turbo (997, 991 and 992) I have been waiting for the PSE, and I find it a good improvement.

Let us not overlook the fact that (well, at least over here, in old Europe) the Guarantee becomes void as soon as you change your cats, or fit another exhaust. When you know the price of a new engine, it gives me food for thought !