GT3 992.1 or 992.2
07-03-2024, 01:56 PM
#46
992.2 is referring to the makeover of sorts for the same body style/chassis.
Porsches push will be the .2 for all Non RS models for likely the next 2 yrs. They MUST dig themselves out of the $hitshow of "special editions" they made for the 992.1 generations. It created an absolute logistics cluster for them and factor the newest tech in the equation they have no need nor incentive to rush into the .2 GT cars.
Ask yourself this, why did Porsche make so many LE cars for the 992.1 gen? It's because they 100% know the .2 will be less desired.
This is sales 101, nothing more.
RL needs to understand. Porsche as a brand doesn't need GT cars anymore to satisfy investors. Volume will always be more desired over margins per unit.
Porsches push will be the .2 for all Non RS models for likely the next 2 yrs. They MUST dig themselves out of the $hitshow of "special editions" they made for the 992.1 generations. It created an absolute logistics cluster for them and factor the newest tech in the equation they have no need nor incentive to rush into the .2 GT cars.
Ask yourself this, why did Porsche make so many LE cars for the 992.1 gen? It's because they 100% know the .2 will be less desired.
This is sales 101, nothing more.
RL needs to understand. Porsche as a brand doesn't need GT cars anymore to satisfy investors. Volume will always be more desired over margins per unit.
Porsche makes LE cars because they like making money.
07-03-2024, 03:22 PM
#47
07-03-2024, 07:11 PM
#48
You never stop spewing BS.
The R's went crazy from 2016-2017, then dropped back down in 2018 when the 991.2 Touring was announced, then slowly crept back up to 2016-2017 figures by 2022, long before the ST was announced. The ST has absolutely nothing to do with the current values of the R.
The R's went crazy from 2016-2017, then dropped back down in 2018 when the 991.2 Touring was announced, then slowly crept back up to 2016-2017 figures by 2022, long before the ST was announced. The ST has absolutely nothing to do with the current values of the R.
07-03-2024, 07:47 PM
#49
You never stop spewing BS.
The R's went crazy from 2016-2017, then dropped back down in 2018 when the 991.2 Touring was announced, then slowly crept back up to 2016-2017 figures by 2022, long before the ST was announced. The ST has absolutely nothing to do with the current values of the R.
The R's went crazy from 2016-2017, then dropped back down in 2018 when the 991.2 Touring was announced, then slowly crept back up to 2016-2017 figures by 2022, long before the ST was announced. The ST has absolutely nothing to do with the current values of the R.
I hate to break it to most the people that think these are "worth more.... good ole loss of the value of the dollar is the real name of it.
Last edited by Justaroofer; 07-03-2024 at 07:49 PM.
07-04-2024, 01:09 AM
#50
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992.2 is referring to the makeover of sorts for the same body style/chassis.
Porsches push will be the .2 for all Non RS models for likely the next 2 yrs. They MUST dig themselves out of the $hitshow of "special editions" they made for the 992.1 generations. It created an absolute logistics cluster for them and factor the newest tech in the equation they have no need nor incentive to rush into the .2 GT cars.
Ask yourself this, why did Porsche make so many LE cars for the 992.1 gen? It's because they 100% know the .2 will be less desired.
This is sales 101, nothing more.
RL needs to understand. Porsche as a brand doesn't need GT cars anymore to satisfy investors. Volume will always be more desired over margins per unit.
Porsches push will be the .2 for all Non RS models for likely the next 2 yrs. They MUST dig themselves out of the $hitshow of "special editions" they made for the 992.1 generations. It created an absolute logistics cluster for them and factor the newest tech in the equation they have no need nor incentive to rush into the .2 GT cars.
Ask yourself this, why did Porsche make so many LE cars for the 992.1 gen? It's because they 100% know the .2 will be less desired.
This is sales 101, nothing more.
RL needs to understand. Porsche as a brand doesn't need GT cars anymore to satisfy investors. Volume will always be more desired over margins per unit.
Ever.
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07-04-2024, 01:12 AM
#51
07-04-2024, 01:46 AM
#52
Agreed. Could dissect every line and point out why it’s wrong but who has time for that.
I’ll start with this though: “sales 101” is not “marketing 101”. You think any luxury brand is purely prioritizing volume? No. Porsche wants to go upstream, not downstream. Their execs have straight up said they want a product catalog that closes the gap with Ferrari. So why the special editions? Because 1) they easily print money and 2) it helps them create a higher tier product offering. And since he mentioned Sales 101…volume is not king. Margin gives you more room to play, whereas volume can blow up in your face.
The .2 generations always end up being the most desirable in the long term. Porsche has no concerns about moving them. If anything they are nervous about slowing SUV and EV sales and will want to find ways to rely on other products, making the .2 and finding other offerings (special editions) even more critical.
I’ll start with this though: “sales 101” is not “marketing 101”. You think any luxury brand is purely prioritizing volume? No. Porsche wants to go upstream, not downstream. Their execs have straight up said they want a product catalog that closes the gap with Ferrari. So why the special editions? Because 1) they easily print money and 2) it helps them create a higher tier product offering. And since he mentioned Sales 101…volume is not king. Margin gives you more room to play, whereas volume can blow up in your face.
The .2 generations always end up being the most desirable in the long term. Porsche has no concerns about moving them. If anything they are nervous about slowing SUV and EV sales and will want to find ways to rely on other products, making the .2 and finding other offerings (special editions) even more critical.
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07-04-2024, 04:29 AM
#54
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I think an increase of 8-12% is reasonable and likely on the .2
07-04-2024, 05:56 AM
#56
You guys need to get out and drive more. lol R values or whatever. Buy it and drive it. You should be thinking about tires, ans brake replacements, oil change and alignments. Not values of xyz. Stop being gay. 🤣
07-04-2024, 09:37 AM
#57
Agreed. Could dissect every line and point out why it’s wrong but who has time for that.
I’ll start with this though: “sales 101” is not “marketing 101”. You think any luxury brand is purely prioritizing volume? No. Porsche wants to go upstream, not downstream. Their execs have straight up said they want a product catalog that closes the gap with Ferrari. So why the special editions? Because 1) they easily print money and 2) it helps them create a higher tier product offering. And since he mentioned Sales 101…volume is not king. Margin gives you more room to play, whereas volume can blow up in your face.
The .2 generations always end up being the most desirable in the long term. Porsche has no concerns about moving them. If anything they are nervous about slowing SUV and EV sales and will want to find ways to rely on other products, making the .2 and finding other offerings (special editions) even more critical.
I’ll start with this though: “sales 101” is not “marketing 101”. You think any luxury brand is purely prioritizing volume? No. Porsche wants to go upstream, not downstream. Their execs have straight up said they want a product catalog that closes the gap with Ferrari. So why the special editions? Because 1) they easily print money and 2) it helps them create a higher tier product offering. And since he mentioned Sales 101…volume is not king. Margin gives you more room to play, whereas volume can blow up in your face.
The .2 generations always end up being the most desirable in the long term. Porsche has no concerns about moving them. If anything they are nervous about slowing SUV and EV sales and will want to find ways to rely on other products, making the .2 and finding other offerings (special editions) even more critical.
07-04-2024, 10:04 AM
#58
07-04-2024, 11:01 AM
#59
Agreed. Could dissect every line and point out why it’s wrong but who has time for that.
I’ll start with this though: “sales 101” is not “marketing 101”. You think any luxury brand is purely prioritizing volume? No. Porsche wants to go upstream, not downstream. Their execs have straight up said they want a product catalog that closes the gap with Ferrari. So why the special editions? Because 1) they easily print money and 2) it helps them create a higher tier product offering. And since he mentioned Sales 101…volume is not king. Margin gives you more room to play, whereas volume can blow up in your face.
The .2 generations always end up being the most desirable in the long term. Porsche has no concerns about moving them. If anything they are nervous about slowing SUV and EV sales and will want to find ways to rely on other products, making the .2 and finding other offerings (special editions) even more critical.
I’ll start with this though: “sales 101” is not “marketing 101”. You think any luxury brand is purely prioritizing volume? No. Porsche wants to go upstream, not downstream. Their execs have straight up said they want a product catalog that closes the gap with Ferrari. So why the special editions? Because 1) they easily print money and 2) it helps them create a higher tier product offering. And since he mentioned Sales 101…volume is not king. Margin gives you more room to play, whereas volume can blow up in your face.
The .2 generations always end up being the most desirable in the long term. Porsche has no concerns about moving them. If anything they are nervous about slowing SUV and EV sales and will want to find ways to rely on other products, making the .2 and finding other offerings (special editions) even more critical.
The special editions play on the 992 was excessive to the point it lost credibility to even it's own base and that's the major difference with what Ferrari does. And process is very different which is why the F cars such as the Aperta, FXX cars, TDF, Compotizione, all take years upon years and millions vested and some require certain cars to still be in possession to even be considered. This model won't suit the Porsche market as P cars as a whole just aren't special enough.
This is why volume for Porsche will supercede margins everytime. No matter what market. If you disagree great, Fortune 100 companies prove otherwise
Last edited by Justaroofer; 07-04-2024 at 11:16 AM.
07-04-2024, 11:11 AM
#60
Not even kind of! Let's double back to this post come end of 2026.
That IG name lol.
Got any cheddar in that bucket?
That IG name lol.
Got any cheddar in that bucket?
Last edited by Justaroofer; 07-04-2024 at 11:13 AM.