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Old 04-23-2024, 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Evo X
Except I’m paying MSRP for my new Ferraris and not massive ADMs.
Ferrari North America has direct control over their dealer network and how they do business. If a store has an allocation and is unable to sell it, FNA will actually pull that allocation and give it to another store with a better track record. Every single allocation is sold to the customer at MSRP. No ADM BS by any Ferrari dealers. Every customer is treated equally.
Exactly the way Porsche and their dealers conduct business

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Old 04-23-2024, 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RG88
Every single allocation is sold to the customer at MSRP. No ADM BS by any Ferrari dealers. Every customer is treated equally.
Except some customers are more equal than others.
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Old 04-23-2024, 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by konaforever
Except some customers are more equal than others.
This is true in the sense that the very highly desirable cars are allocated to those who have built a "portfolio" with them. That's why Leno was denied a car and the guy who mailed a Million Dollar check to the CEO in Italy and he still didn't get a car. They were treated just like I would be treated if I wanted a Daytona SP3, equally.

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Old 04-23-2024, 11:14 PM
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My buddy, who is the GM at my dealer confirmed that my car will now be a 2025 and price is locked in at my current quotes price in the system.
Old 04-23-2024, 11:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 3-Pedals
This is “an understanding”. Its not corporate policy nor its written anywhere. Its not even something their system allows. You get “cash back” after the fact once the car is sold to you. And it takes many back and forth, case numbers with PCNA, convincing, and approval. I know many many MANY people during covid times who were not granted this approval under the same circumstances in their GT3. Their car went V200, then got pushed, and they were stuck with higher MSRP. Some even lost their pretrade car credit (and no Porsche did not make them whole). Some paid deposit in advance and had to tie their money. Its not as simple and as seamless as you make it here.
I cannot comment regarding what happened with Covid. But I believe after Covid, whenever a car was moved to a new model year Porsche has honored the prior pricing. Hopefully that policy will remain.
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Originally Posted by tomchutang
Your dealer sold your MY24 car to you at the MY23 price?
Generally, at least in Europe, if the order status is V200 before the price increase Porsche honors the contract without applying the increase.
Old 04-24-2024, 10:44 AM
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2025 price increase of regular 992 models should be small, not more then 4-5%, at least this is the last info I have, take it for what it's worth.
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Old 04-24-2024, 12:19 PM
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I heard about 1-2% increase of pricing
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Old 04-24-2024, 01:36 PM
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I heard MY25 will reduce pricing by 3% 😋
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Old 04-24-2024, 02:54 PM
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I'm confident there will be a 2025 model as a result of the part shortage. All the buyers with commission numbers and build dates before being moved will receive their cars. The middle of June is the date they will receive their build status. Pricing will be the same as 2024. There may be new allocations but that has yet to be determined. The 2025 model will be the same as the 2024.
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Originally Posted by Nick
. . . . . The 2025 model will be the same as the 2024.
You mean still including the expensive, but cheap on quality light weight glass? Tsk, tsk.
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Originally Posted by Nick
I'm confident there will be a 2025 model as a result of the part shortage. All the buyers with commission numbers and build dates before being moved will receive their cars. The middle of June is the date they will receive their build status. Pricing will be the same as 2024. There may be new allocations but that has yet to be determined. The 2025 model will be the same as the 2024.
I understand you are simply passing the message that your dealer is sharing but I dont think you are fully informed. All cars sold in Europe produced July 7th 2024 and beyond have to have certain pedestrian safety features that none of the GT cars have today (because of their bespoke bumpers). I ask that please do some reading before stating “2025 will be same as the 2024”. Are you a technical person, i.e technically inclined and understand technology? These pedestrian safety systems are quite involved to implement, integrate and more importantly test. The tests are very tedious and lengthy (done by government agencies), they are very dumb and easy to fail. You have no idea what MY2025 will bring as far as “features”. You may suddenly see a different bumper to a GT car because it now has to have additional cameras/sensors. The brake and steering system may require calibration to implement these features. Even in a base car, these are challenging to implement. In a GT3RS? It may not be trivial. Dealerships were told about this MY2025 allocations back in November of 2023 when they got all of their allocations for calendar year 2024. At the time, these new regulations were known but everyone has assumed and continue to do so that the new GT3RS will just magically have these features and they’ll work seamlessly. For starters, these systems can become very dangerous in a race track environment. I dont even know if government agencies testing them are mature enough to allow systems that override their function to shut them off.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pres.../en/ip_22_4312
Old 04-24-2024, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by 3-Pedals
I understand you are simply passing the message that your dealer is sharing but I dont think you are fully informed. All cars sold in Europe produced July 7th 2024 and beyond have to have certain pedestrian safety features that none of the GT cars have today (because of their bespoke bumpers). I ask that please do some reading before stating “2025 will be same as the 2024”. Are you a technical person, i.e technically inclined and understand technology? These pedestrian safety systems are quite involved to implement, integrate and more importantly test. The tests are very tedious and lengthy (done by government agencies), they are very dumb and easy to fail. You have no idea what MY2025 will bring as far as “features”. You may suddenly see a different bumper to a GT car because it now has to have additional cameras/sensors. The brake and steering system may require calibration to implement these features. Even in a base car, these are challenging to implement. In a GT3RS? It may not be trivial. Dealerships were told about this MY2025 allocations back in November of 2023 when they got all of their allocations for calendar year 2024. At the time, these new regulations were known but everyone has assumed and continue to do so that the new GT3RS will just magically have these features and they’ll work seamlessly. For starters, these systems can become very dangerous in a race track environment. I dont even know if government agencies testing them are mature enough to allow systems that override their function to shut them off.

https://ec.europa.eu/commission/pres.../en/ip_22_4312
I am not a technical person but when an email from Porsche Germany to North American dealers that the 2024 will be moved to 2025 models it does carry some weight. European pedestrian regulations do not apply to ROW. I understand that in Europe the 992GT3 RS may no longer be produced. That has already been posted in this thread. But assuming the European regulations do not apply to the US, it's an easy matter for Porsche to honor and move the cars that were scheduled to be built this summer and build them after the factory holiday. The Porsche doesn't have to change the car except designate it 2025.



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Old 04-25-2024, 01:31 AM
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EU regs have nothing to do with cars *sold* in the US. By all accounts there will be be production stub period for the remainder of the calendar year 2024. Whether they call them 2025 or 2024 doesn't matter.

As to the pricing comments before, Porsche has always been good about preserving pricing when an allocation reaches a certain committed point (v200). If they move it you keep the price from when the commitment was made. I had this happen for an allocation moved from 2023 to 2024MY production. It was only two months different but saved $17.5k.
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Two weeks ago I wrote PCNA regarding MY Porsche app dropping my 992GT3RS order. I had asked what had happened to it.

Today I received an email from Porsche stating that my allocation was probably moved to a 2025 model. I post this to validate what most of us believe but received nothing from Porsche. PCNA email confirms there will be a 2025 3RS. Those of us can now rest easy. We will get our cars.


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