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Old 03-29-2024, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by wch
I agree that additional aero can boost confidence and lower lap times - adding aero to the old 360 and 430 Challlenge cars certainly did that. But will adding still more aero to the 992 3RS add enough downforce in enough corners to make a significant difference? Depends on the track, but the Ring feels pretty irrelevant if you're driving Mid Ohio, or Barber, or Laguna Seca.

As for adding power without affecting the warranty, I assumed thst Porsche as majority owner of Manthey (unless that's changed) could make that happen.

I've been looking for a 992 GT3 MR owner who can comment on that kit's performance on US road courses.
You're right that Porsche still has a majority share in Manthey, but that is a very expensive regulatory process to certify a new power plant for a small number of units as a manufacturer. Aftermarket has a big advantage here.

And given that Porsche could only find 5hp from the 991 to 992 RS, how much more could Manthey find with the current regulatory constraints?

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Originally Posted by wch
I agree that additional aero can boost confidence and lower lap times - adding aero to the old 360 and 430 Challlenge cars certainly did that. But will adding still more aero to the 992 3RS add enough downforce in enough corners to make a significant difference? Depends on the track, but the Ring feels pretty irrelevant if you're driving Mid Ohio, or Barber, or Laguna Seca.

As for adding power without affecting the warranty, I assumed thst Porsche as majority owner of Manthey (unless that's changed) could make that happen.

I've been looking for a 992 GT3 MR owner who can comment on that kit's performance on US road courses.
Manthey is not adding more power.
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Porsche should give customers the posibility of sending the new car directly to Manthey whitout the parts that will be removed/replaced. If the Manthey kit is road legal will not be issues when cars are register.
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Great.

Just what the 992.1 GT3 RS needs.

More aero.
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Originally Posted by ipse dixit
Great.

Just what the 992.1 GT3 RS needs.

More aero.
They know upgrade kits like this will print them a ****load of money so they'll produce it. They have no way to increase the power so this is all they can do, either way there's a line of wealthy folks (who are probably at least 30s off the pace on the Nordschleife) that are very happy to throw another 100K+ at it.
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Old 06-22-2024, 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JCviggen
They know upgrade kits like this will print them a ****load of money so they'll produce it. They have no way to increase the power so this is all they can do, either way there's a line of wealthy folks (who are probably at least 30s off the pace on the Nordschleife) that are very happy to throw another 100K+ at it.
I believe the Manthey kits are an alternative to the swamped special wishes program, PTS and other "personalization" options. They'll sell on even a minor improvement in the Ring lap time (that may or may not translate into better gentleman driver times on US tracks). I've never been persuaded that the 992 GT3 kit produced a performance improvement worth the cost.
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Manthey's main appeal is that their stuff is road legal in Germany/Europe and keeps Porsche warranty intact.which is no small benefit. They paid to get some Pagid compounds tested and approved for road use so now they get to sell them at twice the price since it's the only game in town if you want your insurance etc to remain valid. Not a bad idea all things considered.

Price/performance of the upgrades on 992 cars makes no sense, but as you can see there is a significant market for them. Their suspension kit transformed my 991.2 GT3 but the stock baseline is much better for the newer cars so there's not much low hanging fruit.
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Good afternoon so I have a 992 GT3 and a 992 GT3 RS I have already put the Banthey brake lines on the RS as they are the same part number and work if anyone’s looking for them as well have the brake pads at least its a start
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Originally Posted by JCviggen
Their suspension kit transformed my 991.2 GT3 but the stock baseline is much better for the newer cars so there's not much low hanging fruit.
I wonder if the MR suspension will be a usual 4-way manual KW setup (replacing the ***** on the steering wheel) or whether they’ll fit some kind of electrically adjustable kit that can use the *****?
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Originally Posted by GrantG
I wonder if the MR suspension will be a usual 4-way manual KW setup (replacing the ***** on the steering wheel) or whether they’ll fit some kind of electrically adjustable kit that can use the *****?
I can't imagine that they'd find it acceptable to disable all those fancy steering wheel buttons make them non-functional... it'll have to be something electronically adjustable
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I heard one year ago about: additional in-dash display and live gps data/auto-tuning for kw suspension. new ECU for suspension management.
I would dream for let's say Kevin Estre map for Nring, or MR map for xxxx GP track, PC editor to create/modify own maps, etc
It seems KW has gathered more data and knowledge in the last couple of years that they accumulated in the last 20

Imagine nose diving, which is already minimal in 992 GT3RS, to be even less as the car knows to stiffen the front suspension based on GPS data.
For cornering, playing left-right etc
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Originally Posted by pepinozaur
I heard one year ago about: additional in-dash display and live gps data/auto-tuning for kw suspension. new ECU for suspension management.
I would dream for let's say Kevin Estre map for Nring, or MR map for xxxx GP track, PC editor to create/modify own maps, etc
It seems KW has gathered more data and knowledge in the last couple of years that they accumulated in the last 20

Imagine nose diving, which is already minimal in 992 GT3RS, to be even less as the car knows to stiffen the front suspension based on GPS data.
For cornering, playing left-right etc
Now, that would be very cool and worth every $$$ they would charge for it.


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