FourFourTwo

I wish the touring pack went back to being an option and not an allocation separate from the wing car. And, yes a wider range of chasis compliance settings would be nice for a car that is primarily street driven by vast majority of customers.

PTS

They could make the GT3 a single seater and they would still have enough demand

Whoopsy

Taken out of context a bit are we on the 'radical' bit?

The changes are a bit of necessity.

We all know of the trouble with the original 3.8L. They subsequently introduced the 4.0L in the GT3RS. And that engine went into the .2 GT3. Putting the higher power RS engine into the incoming GT3 seems quite normal and not radical, don't you agree?

They don't have a 6-speed manual ready for the launch of the .1 GT3, it was PDK only, but seems like they have underestimated the demand in North America for a manual box. The box was subsequently beta-ed with the 911R and thus ready to be included in the .2 version.

And the .2 3RS gets a small power bump to get above the .2 GT3.

No sudden change of plans there.

ipse dixit

So then by your definition, PAG could introduce a CVT and a 4.2 in the 992.2 and those would not be "radical".

Whoopsy

Had Porsche ever had a CVT? 🤔 Surely you can agree that putting a CVT in is very different than putting a manual in? No?

Like I said, taking things out of context.

The 4.2 'might' go in after 992.2......so that would be the 99X, whatever they gonna name it.

BSheppard

Please Porsche build this!

usctrojanGT3

Why? The only things that would be able to fit back there are little kids, dwarfs, and pets.

mooty

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mooty

there's much to read b/n your words.....

AtTheGlen

This thread is getting mighty interesting. Earlier while reading another 911 S/T article from the Unobtanium File, it occurred to me that the relationship of the 991.2 GT3 and the 911 R that preceded it might give a hint to where Porsche might go with the 992.2 GT3. With all the financial speculation surrounding the 911 R at the time of its initial sales, in large part owing to the engine and the availability of the six-speed, I thought it was brilliant that the 6-spd was offered in the 991.2 GT3 providing increased availability of the GT3 engine with a manual. But the 911 R has remained expensive because of the unique package and its limited availability.

With the launch of the S/T and MSRPs over $300K plus hefty ADMs, I can't see (IMHO, of course) Porsche offering a 992.2 GT3 that would make S/T owners think that the 992.2 was, in many respects, comparable to their S/T. The 992.2 GT3 could get the RS engine but not with the hotter cam in the RS and S/T along with the 6-speed MT from the S/T. On this basis, it doesn't seem that Porsche would put a 4.2L engine in the 992.2 particularly if HP and torque were higher than in the S/T. There could be additional carbon fiber parts but not fenders and doors including the side vents behind the front wheels. Maybe a mag wheel option. Someone posted that the GT3 would not get the lightweight flywheel. Does that affect driveability in a way that would not be suitable for a more widely available model? I like high-, fast-revving engines. But I agree, not likely. All that said, the S/T will remain special like the 911 R because of bespoke bits on the interior and exterior, and of course the lighter weight. And did someone mention the S/T watch?

My 991.2 GT3 with PDK turned about 3,000 rpm at 60 mph. With my 992 Turbo S with its 8th gear, it's turning 1,400 rpm! That said, I like the fact that my incoming MT GT3 has close ratio gears and a low (numerically high) rear axle ratio because I want the car high in the rev band and this won't be a long-haul travel car. I wonder if the cleaning lady could be tricked into finding out something if asked: "Check around about that 7-speed MT going into the 992.2 GT3s with a really high 7th gear to achieve better mileage and lower emissions. Vielen Dank!" Hopefully the response would be no way and if you're thinking that you don't deserve a GT3. And giving 6th gear a higher ratio for lower revs would create a chasm between 5th and 6th unless Porsche messed around with all the ratios.

Here's the thing. I am really excited about my incoming GT3 (wing, 6-spd), and I simply do not feel as if I'd really rather own the S/T given the MSRP+ADM price point. It's a really cool car but at that price point? No, I'm good, very good, with my incoming car.

GrantG

The main difference between the Gt3 and RS engines is the more aggressive cam profile. I think the 992.2 GT3 could get the full RS engine and the lower gearing to fully leverage it.

poofyo101

please don't
they offer enough cars with a backseat if necessary. Keep the track focused street car vibe.

Doublej

Wasn't the purpose of the cam profile to push more power up top since with increased downforce of the RS it needs all it can get at higher speeds. Not sure it's required for the 'lesser' downforce GT3 unless significant increases are coming?

market-research

As much as I love the 992 Turbo S, compared to a Ferrari or McLaren, it is quite heavy.

Manifold

My predictions for 992.2 GT3:

- Slightly more power, just to be able to say it has more power (doesn't really matter whether it's 4.0 or 4.2)

- ***** like the RS for controlling damping, ESC, and TC

- A bit more aero, but it will still have a frunk

- Pretty much the same weight

- Lap time between the current GT3 and RS (will not match the RS)