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Old 03-06-2023, 05:56 AM
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Old 03-06-2023, 10:49 AM
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I remain skeptical hybrid will show up on GT2 RS first, but if true values of 991 GT2 RS just jumped 25%. Glad I held onto mine if this is the direction they're headed. And a modest bump over 700hp ain't gonna cut it with main competitors well into the 800's.
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I remain skeptical hybrid will show up on GT2 RS first, but if true values of 991 GT2 RS just jumped 25%. Glad I held onto mine if this is the direction they're headed. And a modest bump over 700hp ain't gonna cut it with main competitors well into the 800's.
I'm not in the market for any 2RS, but this new version seems like a sub-6:30 car to me, easily. Not sure how this helps the values of the 991 2 RS, as much of the interest in that car rests on its performance standards (and the new one will eclipse them by a wide margin). It's not as though 991 version is a pure lightweight car as it is...

I think they are being coy with "more than 700hp" rating. I expect it to be significantly more than 700 with torque growing 185 ft-lbs from electric motor (so they say), not including any additional torque from the turbo engine tuning. That won't be subtle...

The new chassis from the 992 GT3 RS (with big aero and DRS) teamed with huge power and torque will be formidable (if not the most nimble and tossable model). The electric torque-fill will even improve responsiveness of the powertrain to go with big output increases. This is the perfect model to have hybrid, if a 911 has to have it.

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As the 992.2 Turbo S is confirmed to be a hybrid, I am not surprised the new GT2RS will be based on the new hybrid powertrain. With the Turbo S pretty certainly being close to 700 range (992.1 640hp), I think the GT2RS will be in the high 700 to 800s to compete with track versions of 296, Artura and maybe the Vahalla. 3400-3500lb, 800HP is pretty much the next gen supercar baseline which Porsche should intend to enter to compete and pass European emission regulations, or else the only competitor will be the MC20...

With 963 and 919 Leman hybrid technology in the new GT2RS should be the most advanced, powerful and flagship of the 911 range. 700+ hp engine with 100+ hp electric motor makes sense to me.

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It makes a lot of sense, it's the way the market is going. And it's a lot easier to turn a turbo engine to hybrid than an N/A when it comes to appealing to the fanbase.

I haven't driven either of them, but I know that everyone I DO know who has driven either a 296 or an SF90 loves them so it will likely be a great car (especially as the 2RS is already an awesome non-track car, this will only make it even better).
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If true, the want for this high.
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So 992 probably +1600kg car with OPF and other regulations? 991 GT2 RS seems very atractive in time
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If true, it seems like the lap record/bragging rights car. Track car does not need as much power, and road car does not need as much aero. 296GTB seems like a better option for a road car and 3RS for a track car. Of course, this will be much faster than either on track if lap times are the main goal. But with that power and weight, I don't want to think about the tire budget for those who really drive it hard - a set per day?
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I’m confused how this would be a better car than a lighter 992 gt3rs with the turbo treatment. 300-400# heavier for some extra torque that isn’t much use most of the time ?
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Old 03-07-2023, 01:43 AM
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They will target the AMG ONE time on the Ring, so the power output will have to ccver the delta from 992 gy3rs and some additional weight to cut like 10s... so I would expect it to join the 800hp club
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Originally Posted by pepinozaur
They will target the AMG ONE time on the Ring, so the power output will have to ccver the delta from 992 gy3rs and some additional weight to cut like 10s... so I would expect it to join the 800hp club
not an apt comparison. AMG is $3mm - look for 918 successor to target the 6:35 time.
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Originally Posted by L2_ONBOARD
not an apt comparison. AMG is $3mm - look for 918 successor to target the 6:35 time.
With the 992 GT3RS only 14 seconds away from the AMG ONE, adding an extra 300hp and some weight penalty could potentially be close to or beat 6:30. 991 GT2RS MR is already at 6:38, if not the standard GT2RS, the MR version will certainly beat the AMG ONE.
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GT2RS 'MR is 6:43 vs 6:35 Amg

6:38 is sport auto version, a bit shorter track. So comparing apples to apples, there is a gap of 9s to cover, I wouldn't say it isn't possible and take into consideration new tires to come in the mean time and the fact that this track only gets faster year after year as works are done
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you guys are hilarious. simping for the msrp to jump 100+??
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