Wilder

Furthermore, the more exclusive and upscale the 911 becomes, the more they lift the image of the brand and the more they can charge for the rest of the product line. That's where the real money is made: in the Cayennes, Macans and Taycans.

993RR

Porsche stock - go long or short? That is the question.

cosmos

Long, 100%. They have too much invested in everything, (not in an over leveraged way) they literally hedged their own bets. And their cash reserves are highest in automotive industry. 20% margins across the board.

Wilder

Depends on your understanding of where the company has been and where it's going. Personally, I think the Porsche family are some of the most astute business people around and would bet with them.

993RR

Porsche past has had its serious problems, but they have survived and become ever stronger in the ice world.

EV is a whole new game and we can only hope the EV Macan & Cayman prove to be a success for them to carry on with 911s and other sports cars.

Manifold

Perception that they’re money grubbing could generally hurt sales. Porsche isn’t the only game in town. I used to think Porsches were a good value considering the engineering, performance, reliability, etc. These days, I question that more and more.

CRex

I'm a dye-in-wool brand addict but even I have come to realize Porsche is now a giant marketing machine. There needs to be a balance -- nobody needs to flog the next 911 Walmart Edition as the "emotional enthusiast's choice" or how the Cayenne Tuesday 1/5000 Edition being a link to "Our Le Mans Heritage".

Sometimes less is just more. Unfortunately that virtue appears lost at the moment.

usctrojanGT3

I'm going ALL IN on Porsche stock...to the moon baby!

Manifold

Less is more, form following function, was the Porsche ethos. It was a brand distinguished by its sober German-style engineering, rather than flashiness. Now they want to position themselves more as a 'luxury' brand, which basically means a status brand.

Bowball

I’m losing faith in Porsche now. Chances are I’ll say no to them if they ask me another favour.

Randy M

For many, Porsche is an attractive brand because of the status. That's never been what I like about Porsche and have strayed away from the brand in the past for this reason. The brand does attract some ****** to be honest. However when a brand represents solid engineering, enduring style, design and high performance then status is what these qualities acquire.

Whoopsy

You be surprised how much Porsche AG, not local Porsche distributors, aka PCNA, Porsche GB, Porsche China, etc, cared about their special clients. Some of us have direct line to personal in Zuffenhausen. And don't underestimate the power Porsche AG have if they wish to use it.

A little while ago, my local dealer's Sales Manager tried to play games with my allocations. I informed Zuffenhausen about it and not long after, he was fired, and the owner of the dealership contacted me to smooth things over and the GM also asked fro a meeting to wipe the slate clean and start over. A few here that's from my area would have noticed a girl now sit in his place.

BrntRubber

Man your relentless. We get it.

white6speed

Amazing how this thread refuses to stay on point. It seems a large % hate the car even though no one has seen one let alone drive one. I don't remember if this trend happened on the R and they too were such a bad investment.

catdog2

ST is going to be epic, based on how much I am enjoying my 992 GT3T Manual, it will be even more exciting...

I hope some of these features trickle down to 992.2 or later models as least as options:
1-SMFW and lighter weight gearbox
2-Shorter different final gear ratio
They will further differentiate PDK from manual and make driving experience of latter more intense...

The engine already sounds pretty good and has great throttle response and low rev. inertia, it may just start to approach an F430 manual in terms of those two latter aspects in a brand new car with a warranty

All the rest in this thread is supply vs. demand and give AP a break, he's allowed to do some well placed hyperbole and marketing whatchamacallit