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This is the new business model many California dealers have adopted with the GT3. It cuts both ways in CA—buyers have the right to refuse any car and get their full deposit back and, it seems, the dealers have zero obligation to deliver a sold car as long as they give the deposit back. Even some of the former good guys are playing these games now.
Most all CA dealerships are stealers and to be avoided like the black plague.
This is the new business model many California dealers have adopted with the GT3. It cuts both ways in CA—buyers have the right to refuse any car and get their full deposit back and, it seems, the dealers have zero obligation to deliver a sold car as long as they give the deposit back. Even some of the former good guys are playing these games now.
Many new buyers too who are not previous Porsche customers or very unloyal customers at least. Customers who buy cars and SELL back the cars to the selling dealer and have done so consistently and honestly often pay msrp still at least if the dealer isn't on the the east or west coast.
why support gouging. They shouldn't get any free advertising.
A Porsche, let alone a GT3, is not a basic necessity that everyone needs to survive or an ingredient to run a business. So, price gouging does not apply here. Everyone has options. Sellers have the right to sell at market value and everyone has the right to buy or not to buy.
This is the new business model many California dealers have adopted with the GT3. It cuts both ways in CA—buyers have the right to refuse any car and get their full deposit back and, it seems, the dealers have zero obligation to deliver a sold car as long as they give the deposit back. Even some of the former good guys are playing these games now.
There’s not a single other dealer I’ve heard of that is not honoring the ADM once the order is sold. It’s past the line of egregious. Some friends work at Beverly Hills Porsche, Rusnak, Porsche South Bay, and Porsche DTLA. All of them are at the top when it comes to ADM demands, however, they will honor the deal regardless of the market conditions once your order ultimately arrives.
I’m a lucky one, my local dealer took care of me and I will 100% be trading in with them and continuing to buy from them. I don’t think it’s out of line to keep this information public so the bad actors will pay later for their ethical violations.
when things return to normal, it will be too easy to choose your dealer. Don’t shop at Woodland Hills.
Last edited by User 81423; 03-13-2022 at 09:15 PM.
There’s not a single other dealer I’ve heard of that is not honoring the ADM once the order is sold. It’s past the line of egregious. Some friends work at Beverly Hills Porsche, Rusnak, Porsche South Bay, and Porsche DTLA. All of them are at the top when it comes to ADM demands, however, they will honor the deal regardless of the market conditions once your order ultimately arrives.
I’m a lucky one, my local dealer took care of me and I will 100% be trading in with them and continuing to buy from them. I don’t think it’s out of line to keep this information public so the bad actors will pay later for their ethical violations.
when things return to normal, it will be too easy to choose your dealer. Don’t shop at Woodland Hills.
Fair enough and agreed. Using information and leverage in any market is also expected. If you do sell it back to the dealer ultimately regardless of what the market is commanding at that time for the car, just remember to leave a little on the bone from them. Selling it back to them is one requirement but allowing them to make a little money is the second. Delicate balance but works with reasonable minds working together in good faith. This enhances a mutually beneficial relationship that hopefully continues with more allocations. Some people get amnesia however and greed sets in. Regardless, getting allocations in the future might be tougher even for long time clients as there are too few cars and to many parties wanting allocations. Dealers are under attack and I'm sure in tough situations given the current demand. I suspect many who sell this allocation might be in jeopardy of not getting as regular followup allocations as in the past and will find themselves once used to paying sticker to seek, find and pay mode - myself included. I just am not really on the Porsche hamster wheel like I used to be with lots of car buying. It was kind of exhausting but I will always buy what they will allow me in the GT world at least.
Last edited by TexasPorschelover; 03-14-2022 at 03:42 AM.
After a flurry of not so positive comments about the seller “flipping” this car, the seller posted a comment (see screenshot below) and I must admit that I was quite surprised and intrigued by the fact that he mentioned PCNA reaching out to the dealership that initially sold this car to check on the story (see 4th paragraph). Would not be surprised if the buyer ends up black listed from PCNA as a result of this flip.
A Porsche, let alone a GT3, is not a basic necessity that everyone needs to survive or an ingredient to run a business. So, price gouging does not apply here. Everyone has options. Sellers have the right to sell at market value and everyone has the right to buy or not to buy.
Truth! I don't support the gouging, but this is spot on.
Last I checked, we live in a capitalistic society and businesses, people, dealers, or any market participant are allowed to charge what they can for goods whether it be a car, house, clothes, etc... Think of the alternative of not living in a capitalistic society...
After a flurry of not so positive comments about the seller “flipping” this car, the seller posted a comment (see screenshot below) and I must admit that I was quite surprised and intrigued by the fact that he mentioned PNA reaching out to the dealership that initially sold this car to check on the story (see 4th paragraph). Would not be surprised if the buyer ends up black listed from PNA as a result of this flip.
03-13-2022, 05:58 AM
