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Old 06-29-2021 | 12:26 PM
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You've already taken all the fun out of it, and you haven't even made a decision yet.
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I honestly only want the car because it is in ultra high demand / will retain its value. I would be perfectly happy with the new 992 2S or even my own today. Building a new GT3 would be an amazing experience though as well. The ability to drive it for a few months and sell it where I bought it or higher is the single most attractive aspect to me. I love cars, do not own any boats or planes, but I also love the ability to come out ahead financially on it because it makes me feel better about spending $200k on a car. That’s just me though. That doesn’t mean I can’t “afford” it, but the intangible benefit of that is important to me. If I lose $20K in depreciation on it, no big deal, that’s the downside case. Get to drive a brand new GT3 that I got to spec out myself, for $20k out of pocket? Pretty epic. It will be very exciting. But I’m not particularly excited to lose a bunch of money on a car when there are others that retain value well (hence why I will never look at the new McLaren’s). I also personally don’t have the need/urge to upgrade from my existing Carrera. I like it, a lot. But again, if there’s very low cost to getting the new GT3/I could come out ahead and sell my 2S at all time used price highs, then I really like that scenario.

I’m mostly concerned with getting sold the hype, paying $200k, and then having a car that depreciates $40k in a year because everyone got an allocation and the market is suddenly flooded with supply. I wouldn’t be happy losing $40K on a brand new GT3 that is completely unnecessary to own when I have a perfectly fine 2S manual that I could tune if I want more power.

Jesus. Go stand in a corner somewhere and give your allocation to someone who cares. Why are you even wasting your time? Keep your carrera and enjoy it. Unreal.
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Old 06-29-2021 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Yippiekiaye
Jesus. Go stand in a corner somewhere and give your allocation to someone who cares. Why are you even wasting your time? Keep your carrera and enjoy it. Unreal.
Understand your viewpoint. I can’t be the only one who thinks it would be great to drive a new GT3 for no real cost though?
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Originally Posted by tthebert908
I honestly only want the car because it is in ultra high demand / will retain its value. I would be perfectly happy with the new 992 2S or even my own today. Building a new GT3 would be an amazing experience though as well. The ability to drive it for a few months and sell it where I bought it or higher is the single most attractive aspect to me. I love cars, do not own any boats or planes, but I also love the ability to come out ahead financially on it because it makes me feel better about spending $200k on a car. That’s just me though. That doesn’t mean I can’t “afford” it, but the intangible benefit of that is important to me. If I lose $20K in depreciation on it, no big deal, that’s the downside case. Get to drive a brand new GT3 that I got to spec out myself, for $20k out of pocket? Pretty epic. It will be very exciting. But I’m not particularly excited to lose a bunch of money on a car when there are others that retain value well (hence why I will never look at the new McLaren’s). I also personally don’t have the need/urge to upgrade from my existing Carrera. I like it, a lot. But again, if there’s very low cost to getting the new GT3/I could come out ahead and sell my 2S at all time used price highs, then I really like that scenario.

I’m mostly concerned with getting sold the hype, paying $200k, and then having a car that depreciates $40k in a year because everyone got an allocation and the market is suddenly flooded with supply. I wouldn’t be happy losing $40K on a brand new GT3 that is completely unnecessary to own when I have a perfectly fine 2S manual that I could tune if I want more power.
cars are meant to depreciate. To try and quantify how much depreciation one will realize on a car that hasn’t made its way to the NA market is a fruitless exercise. Just buy the car if you want it and assume you’ll lose a couple bucks when you sell it.
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Originally Posted by mnawa
cars are meant to depreciate. To try and quantify how much depreciation one will realize on a car that hasn’t made its way to the NA market is a fruitless exercise. Just buy the car if you want it and assume you’ll lose a couple bucks when you sell it.
Thats what I thought, but I can’t pick up a 991.2 GT3 touring for less than $40k over MSRP today. Again, I don’t need a GT3, but it would certainly be awesome to have.
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This thread sucks.
Agreed. OP starts new thread because the other one got destroyed, then he destroys this one with his wacky rants. Only on Rennlist.
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I told you guys he is a TROLL....
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Old 06-29-2021 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by tthebert908
Understand your viewpoint. I can’t be the only one who thinks it would be great to drive a new GT3 for no real cost though?
Buy a 10 year old Honda. Pretty sure its depreciated and you wont lose a dime.
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Old 06-29-2021 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by RUF RS
I told you guys he is a TROLL....
You called it.
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Old 06-29-2021 | 01:22 PM
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I’m a troll because I see the demand for a vehicle and am interested because I can make some money on it or drive it for free?

Point is, dealer is offering an allocation to an unqualified potential buyer, when I see elsewhere it is extremely difficult to get a car. Thing may have changed since the release now that we are in summer 2021. I’m wondering if it’s regional or not.

Another poster just said he ordered his at $50k ADM in California.

I like to make money, not lose money. I like cars as well. I sometimes lose money on cars and do not care, but if I can make money on the car that is great. That = troll?
Old 06-29-2021 | 01:25 PM
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Do you think a bunch of enthusiasts want to hear or care about your desire to only buy a GT3 for it's monetary value or value retention? Do yourself and others a favor and let that allocation land with someone who actually wants to own this car. You're clearly not an enthusiast and a GT3 would be wasted on you.
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Old 06-29-2021 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by PTS
Do you think a bunch of enthusiasts want to hear or care about your desire to only buy a GT3 for it's monetary value or value retention? Do yourself and others a favor and let that allocation land with someone who actually wants to own this car. You're clearly not an enthusiast and a GT3 would be wasted on you.
Great point all around. I did think it was interesting / worth sharing with folks that an allocation came virtually effortless to an unqualified (me) potential buyer. I consider myself unqualified as I’ve only serviced my car with that dealer and had little interest to begin with. Yet, I hear that there is insane demand and people (like one of the posters above) are paying $50-$75k ADM to get one. It just seems very strange to me. Maybe it’s regional and the demand in CA is very different than the demand on the east coast. Or maybe Porsche is actually giving dealers more allocations than anticipated and people will be getting calls about their LOI’s soon. Nontheless, all helpful info for people who are interested in the most recent stance on allocations & ADM/cost to get one.

I also find it strange that people would look down upon me for recognizing (and questioning) an opportunity to build a new GT3, drive the car/enjoy for a bit, and sell it for a profit. To me logically that seems like a good deal that an ordinary person would take. But as enthusiasts who do not value the financial aspects of ownership as much, this makes sense.

FWIW, I am willing to lose some money on the car. As someone who hasn’t owned a GT3 it’s possible that I could become an enthusiast as I am for my 2S. I’m not buying a 991.2 for $40k over original MSRP. As much as I would kill for an Albert Blue 99.12 touring (also none even on the market, as Merit Partners auctioned the only one I knew of in an Instagram auction that fetched almost $250k for the car). I am simply questioning what’s happening in this market with ADM’s, perceived demand, and who is getting allocated and when.

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Why are you still typing? No gives a rats *** about your financial situation and the desire to make money on a car.
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Old 06-29-2021 | 02:40 PM
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OP, if you use the Search function in the 991 GT3 subforum, you will find any number of value threads that will answer all of your questions. And if you really want to make friends and influence people on Rennlist, bump a few of them to the top of the forum.


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