Ironically, speaking about reaction times and such in relation to a brake test does show that one does not know what they are talking about. That 0.1s blah blah is completely irrelevant for a brake test because everyone just brakes at a marker - cone or white line. It's very easy even for an amateur to brake within a foot of a line, and two feet off would be sloppy. Almost everyone can catch a flying ball, but being off by even much less than 0.1s would make it impossible - your hand would be inches or more likely feet away from where the ball was. And yet it's commonly done and does not require superpowers. Same with braking at a marker. And from there ABS takes skills out of the equation for the actual braking process, as long as everyone is instructed to activate ABS immediately. It's quite easy to do very consistent brake tests. Of course, we don't know if they have done it properly, but it's a common thing that's hard to f\up.

 

This isn’t complicated. A car that has a lot more grip in corners will also have a lot more grip in braking, hence shorter braking distance. The braking test was nonsense, and Sutcliffe should know better.

 

All I can say for now. 😉

 

Ooohhh, fingers crossed for early allocations. Although it would save me some money...

 

My CXX contact said absolutely not free. They’re still deciding but if they do allow it will be 8k like on Gt4rs!

 

8k for the hood or hood+roof? I’d happily pay it….

 

I wouldn't be happy about it. Easier to finish a solid piece with paint than the mess on the WP hood.

 

Hood only, 8k.

 

Looks like @Manifold added a 992 turbo s to the list of potential .1 gt3 replacement?

https://rennlist.com/forums/992-turb...g-992-tts.html

 

I was cab shopping on Friday and test drove a 991.2 TTS cab, and was surprised at how much fun it was. That got me thinking about getting a 992 TTS (dealer has one on the floor). And then I thought, why not track the 992 TTS if I have one? So the plan would be to replace the GT4 with the 992 TTS, and then replace the .1 GT3 with a new GT car if we get an allocation. Spent a long time talking with my GM on Friday and he assured that I'm high up on his list, but who knows, the allocations are going to be pretty scarce and he has no good intel on that. Wife and I both track, so we need two track cars, and a TTS seems like an interesting contrast to a GT car (lap time appears close to 992 GT3 with equal tires, maybe even faster at some tracks). Still interested in the RS, but one additional concern that came to mind over the weekend is the possibility of adverse effect on the aero with windows down - would the downforce be reduced?

991 TTS:

 

Thought you were worried about overheating tires? Is probably the wrong way to go with a heavy turbo car if you are worried that the 992 GT3 RS would have problems with overheating tires then you are probably more correct about that right here in the choice of a heavy turbo. I have driven these on track and they are boring if compared to GT3:s (just my personal feeling)

 

+1 | AWD 911s have no soul compared to RR 911s.

 

I really can't say, how easy it is to hit the brakes within two feet or less of a marker at speeds of 160km/h. I really can't say. It may be as you say, that even amateurs can do it. That, however, surely wasn't the case here. Well, at least not what was shown in the video, since he is counting down from three with all cars being somewhere all around the place but surely not level. If the marker was the white line, then why count down from three? Might for the drama of the video, but then, again, it is misleading at the least.
I am having my own markers when I track, and I doubt that I always hit them to a meter, since on hard braking zones like after Parabolica in Hockenheim, where you go from 250+ to less than 50, I sometimes have a few meters to spare and some other times I'm really really barely making it (so basically perfectly ). I am ambitioned, but I certainly not always brake exactly at my imaginary marker. Might be different with a real, physical marker like a line or a cone and when your only job to do is hit the brakes as hard as you can but I have never tried.
In any case, I am very certain that PCCBs on any GT3 will not stop the same car measurably quicker on a single stop from 100-0mph (I can sense no noticeable difference between my STs and my previous steels) and I would also state that it is is not easy - in real life use on track or street - to bring the steels to temperatures that would get the PCCBS a noticeable advantage on stopping distance over the course of a few laps. As long as your brake fluid is not boiling and you can lock your tires, the therotically achieveable brake torque (which would be bigger on bigger rotors with same pads) is of no importance. And as long as this is given, once more, we have the ABS setup and the tires limiting the grip and nothing else. Brakes stop your wheels, tires stop your car. It's as simple as it sounds.
No doubt that the PCCBs have an incrementally small advantage on the paper (less mass of the car to stop, less intertia for suspension and due to less rotational mass you could therotically have a quicker initial lock of the wheels before the ABS kicks in, which I'm not even sure is good or not), but I would be really interested to see real scientific data and not some backcountry test.
Porsche does not only have some of the best engineering out there, they are also - as we all know - are a marketing machine par excellence and if they had scientific data showing how your GT3 stops noticeably or measurable any faster with the PCCBs, then they would surely sell it to us. Why have they never (at least not that I know of) published any numbers then?
@MaxLTV Your avatar suggests you might have some serious track experience. What's your take on this?
Would be interesting to hear what other advanced or semi-prefessional track guys here have to say.

 

To me is very easy braking in the same spot when i race...

To me is almost impossible to brake in the same spot to make a judgement on stopping times and distance. For this is mandatory a telemetry recording . Not to mention the fact that they are braking in different zones of the tarmac, with tires with different level of wear! Is just a big no!

This video are just crap!

 

I’d expect less overheating with the turbo, since there’s less grip than the RS, so tires not being worked as hard. And now that I’m hearing that good Goodyears are likely to be available in the correct sizes, I’m generally less concerned with overheating, even for the RS. It’s the Cup 2 that I want to stay away from.

I always assumed the TTS would be boring on road and track, hence no interest until now, but a lot of people seem to think otherwise on track and it was definitely fun on the road. We would still have a GT car, so the idea is to have some variety - one scalpel, one sledgehammer. But no decision made yet, it will largely come down to which car is available at an acceptable price.