rickman_fr

Spyerx

Great another forum full of value threads. Just what rennlist needed.

GrantG

It's interesting that it looks like there is some significant aero going on with the frunk (like an S-duct) that could reduce luggage space (Touring functionality), but without fixed rear wing. You think this is just for purposes of a mule (add and remove fixed rear wing for testing) or the Touring might actually have this feature?

Drifting

Very happy the 992 GT cars finally have their own forum.

Mods......can we please move the other 992 GT threads to here from the general 992 forum?

Drifting

agree that S duct is likely happening on the front. Likely active aero on the back.

The biggest positive of the 992 GT cars will be extra aero. The RS aero will be next level.

Re touring, I bet only the rear will be different between the two cars so if the winged GT3 loses frunk space, so will the touring.

I take my .2 GT3 on extended trips and being able to fit two rollerboard suitcases in the frunk is major positive. Would be unfortunate if the new GT cars lose that capability.

GrantG

I doubt we see active aero on the GT3 Touring and regular (beyond what we see today with Touring wing raising lowering at certain speeds). I think if any active, it goes with RS.

Drifting

I agree it would make more sense for the RS to get the next cool aero trick, not the GT3.

Though in the super bowl ad the GT3 wing looks unusual like it was active aero and the GT3 mule looks like it has an S duct, so who knows what Porsche will do?

fxz

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Marantz2270

With speculators/flippers speckled throughout the Porsche universe, I can totally understand the annoyance at value threads. That said: Is there a way to ask what folks think the market for these cars will/will not do in the coming months and years without coming off as fixated on dollars instead of driving? I'll give this question further context: In the next 1-2 years I likely will be in position to pull the trigger on a Porsche for the first time. The 991.2 GT3 Touring is my dream car, and I would love nothing more than to buy one, drive the hell out of it, and pass it on to my kids one day. While I'm not quite in the spot to make the purchase I have been keeping a close eye on the GT3Ts that have come through the market over the past quarter, and prices are all over the map...some going for close to MSRP, some well, well north of that. I'd love to know what folks around here that know way more than I do what they think prices on the Touring will do in the next year or two. I'm not trying to predict the market so I can squeeze every last dollar out of the purchase. Hell, I'd buy today a bit above MSRP if I could.

That said, I don't think all questions about value come from the standpoint of speculators/flippers/collectors. Some of those questions come form folks that just wonder if prices will at least stay relatively stable in the near term to the point their dream car might be within reach.

As a long time lurker who is finally participating, thanks to everyone who has been here for a long time that has been willing to share their knowledge and insight on all things Porsche. I've learned a lot, and I hope to one day soon be driving what you all drive!

joemelsha

I'm hoping that they bring back the shift lever to the GT cars... even though I'm a poser manual driver, it's still a nice feeling to use it sometimes vs. the paddles.

Has anyone heard from their dealers on how many people they have on their dreaded "wait-lists" or any potential announcement dates? I'm currently "on" 2 of them.
I figure if they announce them sometime mid this year, they wont start hitting the ground till early-mid 2021. Really hard to get excited about this car if it's probably going to take that long, better to just enjoy the current ones and not worry about it.
I have a feeling Porsche is going to ramp up production on this one due to GT cars outselling everything else as of recent. I'm sure there will be a shortage at first, but ultimately anyone who wants one will probably be able to get one.

Would also be cool to see higher than 9000 RPM redline so I can be cringy and tell people ITS OVER 9000 when they ask me what my redline is

Also, I think the people concerned with values would be better off spending that time making more money so it doesn't matter..

Marantz2270

Haha, fair enough.

fxz

style wise
as i will always prefer an older 993 over a more modern 996
i also prefer a 991 over a too politically correct 992

engine wise
the common believe is that If the 992 client is "lucky" will get a Particulate Filter optimezed 991.2 GT3 engine (fuel pressure and exhaust design) with a non significant 20HP bump alà Speedster

otherwise If 992 clients get "unlucky" the 991.2GT3 engine, in the 992, will be coupled with a small battery to help for homologation purpose

lucky or unlucky the clients , the result is the same , the current 991.2 GT3 engine but the ugly 992 package

i wish at this point the "unlucky" ( for some) hybrid 992 , at least something new , more performance, and more coherent with the interior, is added, i can t see the 992 to be any classic but something new ( with all the touchscreens, techs and rear family design ) coupled with the same level of engine and RnD , hence hybrid, otherwise is again smoke and mirrors alà old GTS marketing fluff

Manifold

There's no real mystery. Performance of the 992 GT3 will be roughly similar to the 991.2 GT3 RS, but with a less aggressive vibe. I estimate that the price will be around $15K more than the 991.2 GT3, so it will be possible to get one out the door for well under $200K. It will be hard to get one at first, then it will be less hard to get one. In terms of the feel, the gap between the 992 and 991 GT3 will be a lot less than the gap between the 991 and 997 GT3, and the 991 and 997 cars will remain desirable.

I can't say I'm in the market for the 992 GT3, the 991.1 GT3 is still plenty good for me.

Porsche911GTS'16

Marantz2270 - Even when the 992 GT3 becomes available, I do not foresee the prices of the 991.2 GT3s dropping significantly. The Touring has been and will remain the most desirable of the 991.2 GT3s on the resale market. I think a lightly used, well-spec'd Touring will remain around sticker for the foreseeable future. For me, the performance gains (whatever they might be) in the 992 are not worth it for me to upgrade. I will never, ever push my Touring to its limits. Also, the exterior and interior of the 992 Carrera (on which the Touring will be based) does nothing for me. I don't like the squared off hood, the awkward rear, the side view mirrors, the door handles, the overly digital interior, etc. The 991.2 GT3 has, for me, the perfect balance of analog and digital in the interior and it preserves the classic lines of 911s of yesteryear. Good luck in your search for a Touring!

Overdraft

I am on the list for a 992TTS..and was going to trade my GT3 T for it but I can’t see myself signing it over to the dealer...I just love that goofy car. Had it for two summers and only put 4000 km on it which won’t increase anytime soon with a TTS in the mix. Told my wife “ it’s like a bond dear - wont drop too much in value” ..and the interest on the TTS loan “ not to worry dear, we’re making more $ with our portfolio “.

I wonder what her lawyer will have to say about that....