Hello Rennlist,

Originally was looking at buying 997.2 and been looking for a while for a right car, but came up on a launch car (2012.5) 991S w/ PDK with original MSRP of 127k. Car is at 70k miles, what do you think is the fair price for such car? Im looking to use it as a daily driver. Thanks for your input!

Heres the options list:

176 Sport Exhaust System
1H Platinum Silver Metallic
250 Porsche Doppelkupplung (PDK)
276 Automatically dimming mirrors
321 Power Sport seats (right)
322 Power Sport seats (left)
342 Seat heating (front)
345 Steering wheel heating
427 20-inch Carrera Classic wheel
583 Smoking package
603 Porsche Dynamic Light System
630 Light design package
636 ParkAssist (front and rear)
640 Sport Chrono Package
651 Electric sunroof
658 Power steering plus
682 Burmester(R) Sound System
690 SiriusXM(R) & HD Radio(R) rcvr
748 Electric folding ext. mirrors
762 Launch vehicle
844 Multi-function steering wheel
AZ Black leather interior
P06 Power Sport Seats (14-way)
P38 Premium Package w 14-way seats
ZAA Auto AC
ZAB Ornamental Porsche Crest

 

That's a lot of miles...I'd guess $55-60k depending on condition and service history/upcoming work that needs to be done.

 

$45-50k.

 

depends on maintenance records. Easily still a 65K car WITH documents and shape.

 

lol. I'd buy another 991S if I could get one with 70k miles for $45k

 

I have a 2014 C2S, $121k build, 2 years warranty left, with about 7k miles on it. I'd be lucky if I could get $72-75k for it right now. There is no way a 2012.5 with 70k miles is worth $65k. Only a fool would buy that car with that mileage out of warranty for $65k.

 

The car OP posted is by far the lowest priced 991S in the country. I found it online. Every other 991S is $12k+ more. The lowest priced 991S I see from a dealer with any spec is $68k.

 

On Manheim recent transactions of a 911S with 55-64K miles was $47-$50K which is wholesale auction. I hope that helps.

 

Sellers price of 55k is fair. If you like the car you should go for it!

 

FYI, I ran my first 911 to 118,000 miles, then did the valve guides, cam chain tensioners, transmission synchros, and heat exchangers and then drove it to 226,000 miles before selling it. Pretty much it was bulletproof and required little but tires and brake pads. Even at 226K I had the original clutch in it and I drove that car like I stole it.

I'm on my 5th 911 now, and 72K miles wouldn't bother me in the least. Porsche builds a tough car, it's not a Ferrari or an Aston Martin.....

 

I was curious if having all service documents helps with the value. I have every dealer records saved in a folder from delivery to current 47k on my 2012 991S. Hopefully if the time arrives to sell this will get me a small premium or at least a faster sale.

What are your thoughts on value % or $ with vs without records?

 

Do the early 991S have an updated PDK or is it the same as in 997.2 cars?

What kind of depreciation would you expect if the car will be driven aprox 18k miles per year for the next 5 years lets say.

 

Drive and enjoy. Don't worry about it's value at the end of use.

My car is hopefully going to be worn out and worth as much as a VW Beetle when I'm done with it.

 

Updated PDK box, same as any other 2013+ models as far as I know

The car you're looking for has the exact same specs as mine, same year as well
To contrast prices
I paid 73.5k last April @ 27,888 miles, CPO'd

I have a friend who has a 2012.5 as well with well over 67k miles, never asked how much he paid but his car has had zero issues.

 

Similar spec to mine, I have 76k. It's a bulletproof car, I wouldn't do an even trade on a car in another color with zero miles.

My thoughts are, more miles is less $ up front, but a little more mx down the road, but you can finance so it's a wash in the long term. Buy the car that's as close to the spec you want as as long as the price is appropriate for the miles.

Buy a high mileage car all day, but not because of the price. If a low mileage car is closer to your perfect spec, just buy that and finance the difference. For instance: would you prefer SPASM? There's no easy way to convert even though it was like a $200 option.