BlueNorther

The sales guy should have said:

"OK. I'd be happy to order one with MT and whatever option you'd like. Let's go see if I can get you an allocation."

Then again, did you ask?

Keadog

It's also the end of the month.

Archimedes

You create an entire thread about a salesman simply doing his job and you call other people defensive?

And I think the word you were searching for was opinion, rather than assertion. Which would be wrong, particularly among Rennlisters.

Archimedes

Or maybe, just maybe, from his actual experience selling Porsches for years, he knows that the vast majority of people who walk in off the street asking about cars in inventory are more likely to prefer the PDK once they drive it and that the average guy/gal who really wants a manual would be talking allocation right from the start, rather than shopping cars in inventory. So he's maybe just playing the odds, rather than being a douche bag. Just a thought.

freeman

I asked and got it.

Not difficult if you have an SA who knows and respects you. I have purchased 4 Porsches 2 Audis and one Mercedes from this dealership. Unfortunately, I have been treated like trash at other dealerships who do not know me. I show them my checkbook in my pocket and tell them I want to pay cash. I always show up in my PU truck to see how they will respond. Sometimes I show up in coveralls. I am caucasion. I am always treated poorly. I have been chased out of the many distinguished dealerships in major cities.

I have a much worse story of ill-judged abuse. I have a very distinguished college roomate who is black and a physician who wanted to purchase a Mercedes in Kansas City when he was in the Army. He walked into the dealership and no one would spealk with him. He turned around and walked out to the Jaguar dealership up the street. He paid cash for a new Jaguar Sedan and then bought a new XKE a few years later.

When will SAs treat all people kindly? There is no need for this behavior. Please look at this month's Consumer Report that provides evidence that car insurance companies charge more for black than white clients.

When will this nonsense stop?

Selo

As a matter of fact I did not ask. In fact, I asked exactly what I said I asked, because I wondered if he had any on the lot, not that I could order and receive in four months. But it's a good idea, I just was not in the mood to look for an allocation.
Generally when I ask something, it's because that's the question I wish to ask.

Selo

Proof? Poll? And did I ever mention saying this only about Rennlisters​? I don't recall saying this was only about Rennlisters. I recall saying it about pdk drivers in general.

pdutta2000

the people who create these threads are usually manual drivers claiming something about connection to the machine or pure driving experience. PDK drivers never create these threads.

And Porsche clearly didn't make a mistake. The majority of their sports cars are PDK and their #1 selling vehicle is an SUV. Tell me again about heritage and I'll tell you about a company that was going out of business before the Cayenne came out. The only car that deserves a manual is the GT3 which it now has.

You guys are bashing a sales guy for selling the car he sells the most of and the only version he has on the lot.

NoGaBiker

I think most PDK drivers use Auto most of the time, certainly if you include the sedan and SUVs. I'd still guess most 911 PDK drivers use Auto at least 80% of their drive miles.

I'd put my personal ratio after 11,000 miles at 98% manual, 2% Auto. If you make it street only (exclude track miles), I'd say 99% manual, 1% Auto. Auto is great on track, Manual is great on street.

As to the SA; I don't know the OP's relationship with the SA, but I assume the SA saw a male human walk in through the door and start claiming he's a manual driver and that's how he'd want HIS 911. I would also assume the SA gets 15 Subaru BRZ and Miata and 350Z drivers a week doing the same thing. I'd further assume that when he actually talks to a person who is prepared to pull out his checkbook and BUY a 911, the SA's experience is that such a person is nearly always wanting a PDK.

I bet he thought you were in the BRZ/Miata camp...

(All my Porsches before the current one have been manual. In recent years I've had to either order or buy used to get one.)

Selo

Boy, I'm sensing a lot of hostility here from PDK drivers.
Here's what I know:
I went into a dealer and asked if they had any nice manual choices. Instead of an affirmative or a negative, I received a lecture regarding the SAs racing prowess in SCCA, and a lecture to the effect that even though I think I like manual, I probably will like PDK better.
And now, on this forum, I've had my testosterone level questioned, my appearance and persona questioned, and my ability to pose a question questioned.
Is this simply projection and transference from the PDK crowd? Wow, what's the source of this hostility?
By the way, the story was for entertainment purposes only, to share a little frustration with enthusiasts. I'm sorry anyone might have somehow interpreted this as PDK bashing.

​Did the Russians troll this to get it heated?

saeyedoc

I'm the opposite. I drive mostly to and from work. There are so many idiots on the road that I'd rather not have to think about shifting. I mainly use manual for spirited drives in the Hill Country where I want to keep it in a gear so I don't have to hit my brakes on the twistys.

JustBud

What do old men in Depends and Porsche's have in common?

They like to shift themselves........

VV No hostility here, I'm done with that.... I just crack up at the drama over .1 vs. .2 or PDK vs. Manual etc.

4pipes

To quote a tee shirt I saw recently on YouTube "driving with PDK frees up your right hand to scratch your vagina".

VWfamily

Geez. So much over a transmission. Buy what you like, shift how you like. It is fine to have choices. (I chose PDK). Never really calculate what percentage of the time I am in what mode. Seems juvenile
to me

911seeker

This is going to be another epic thread...