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Old 05-19-2017, 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by F1CrazyDriver
Can you explain why the OP or others like myself should not go to those countries ?
Already did in my post.
Old 05-20-2017, 02:43 AM
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Just get a Trump 2016 bumper sticker and you'll be received like family...
Old 05-20-2017, 03:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Noah Fect
Just get a Trump 2016 bumper sticker and you'll be received like family...
Uncertain if that's a dig at me, trump, or a specific country.

Anyway......I'm a native born American but I speak fluent Russian. I spent a year living in Moscow, and have traveled extensively through Eastern Europe. I can't can't count how many clueless people from the US and Western Europe I saved/helped in various places in the former soviet bloc countries, because these tourists thought things worked the same in Montenegro as it does in Paris. Very different places to travel through.

If people don't understand that, then they haven't seen as much of the world as they think.
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Originally Posted by Drifting
Can you enlighten us on why you're going through the former Yugoslavia countries,( Serbia etc?)

I understand going to Czech Republic and Hungary, the others seem a lot less safe, and with less social infrastructure if you have a mechical or medical problem.
oh how American of you, being from Serbia and all, I could tell you a million reasons you should go there but I doubt you would listen....

to OP, I am sure you will have a good time and enjoy the trip
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Originally Posted by subshooter

Great question. I only wanted to drive the Transfagarsan highway in Romania. That's it. That required a pickup in Leipzig, drive to Romania and then return to Stuttgart or Leipzig. Everything was planned perfectly and then I asked my wife what she thought - first mistake. Here is what changed: Spend 2 nights in Berlin first. Added Venice for two nights which made us drive through Serbia, Croatia. Slovenia and Bosnia. Then she added Verona to see Romeo and Juliet's balcony. Then drive to Lake Como, then Mont Blanc on the French side. Then we had to drive to Stuttgart. This trip is 1 year in the making and had many iterations including going to Turkey, Albania, Greece, Norway etc....It was crazy. This route is how we landed with the many compromises between us. lol First world problems.


Damn those Other Halves ... however you will not be disappointed.

Funny how the US views Europe - probably same as I thought my first US trip was going to go - shot or raped within the first hour

Hopefully you will meet some good people like I did!
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Originally Posted by amet
oh how American of you, being from Serbia and all, I could tell you a million reasons you should go there but I doubt you would listen....

to OP, I am sure you will have a good time and enjoy the trip
If I was Serbian I would feel comfortable traveling there.

If I was an American who spoke only English, Serbia would not be at the top of my to visit list.

I expect you wouldn't feel too comfortable visiting Nigeria right now.
Old 05-20-2017, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Drifting
If I was Serbian I would feel comfortable traveling there.

If I was an American who spoke only English, Serbia would not be at the top of my to visit list.

I expect you wouldn't feel too comfortable visiting Nigeria right now.
you would be surprised how much CNN and BBC lie to people, guaranteed you would be safer in Serbia then in most of US cities... or Moscow where you lived, I visit Moscow 2-3 times a year and refuse to drive there... metro all the way

Africa is not a good example, lived there before moving to Middle East and have traveled to most of the countries ... but South America would be different for me
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Originally Posted by Noah Fect
Just get a Trump 2016 bumper sticker and you'll be received like family...
Ha! Ironically I was considering putting this sticker on the black cover underneath the rear spoiler so that it was hidden most of the time (important to keep that sticker hidden while parked) but I could manually put it up at stop lights etc.

Originally Posted by Tjlees


Funny how the US views Europe - probably same as I thought my first US trip was going to go - shot or raped within the first hour

Hopefully you will meet some good people like I did!
I agree with you on this point. I've lived in the Middle East with my young family and it totally changed how I perceived the world. My wife is much more concerned than I am about traveling to eastern Europe. She doesn't want to be sold into the European sex trade in Romania or the Czech Republic. lol

I am sure we will meet some great people. They are everywhere.
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You want a plug kit. Takes up very little space.
+1. https://www.stopngo.com/

We did Euro delivery and the most adventurous place we visited was Prague, but learned later that places in Germany were worse for car theft!
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This may seem like a lame question, but with all that traveling, how are you managing your luggage in a 911?

Doug
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Default Driving through 8 ex-Soviet Block countries...

Originally Posted by subshooter
I will be driving through 8 ex-Soviet
Block countries...

Comrade Subshooter:

Technically, I believe you will be driving through only four of the former
Soviet Block countries. They would be East Germany, Czechoslovakia,
Hungary & Romania. Back then, the Czech Republic & Slovakia were
one single country. And Yugoslavia (today's Croatia, Bosnia/Herzegovina,
Montenegro, Slovenia, Kosovo, Serbia-Vojvodina & Macedonia
) was
not considered a puppet of the Soviets after Tito & Stalin split in 1948.
Nor did it ever joined the Warsaw Pact. So it was not Soviet Block.

If you want to reach more Ex-Soviet Block countries on your Porsche
European Delivery, you need to extend your trip to Poland & Bulgaria.
But you are still short of eight!

***
If, however, you change your goal to visiting as many ex-Warsaw Pact
countries as possible, you get additional results. Albania was part of
it until 1968...and that you can hit easiy after Serbia. And if you don't
want to set foot on the Soviet Motherland (CCCP) to reach the magic
8 number, you can alternatively detour by boat to that sunny socialist
paradise - Cuba. Although technically not a member of the Warsaw
Pact, it was there in spirit until the bitter end! In fact, it still is!

Счастливого пути!,
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Old 05-20-2017, 04:56 PM
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It looks like a fun trip! Whenever someone ask me whether I am afraid to go to "x" or "y" country, my reply is "but you go to Oakland CA all the time."
Old 05-20-2017, 05:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Boxster in my Future?
This may seem like a lame question, but with all that traveling, how are you managing your luggage in a 911?

Doug
Not a lame question at all. I spent 20 years in the submarine force so I know how to travel light. We did a similar trip in our 981 Boxster in 2013 for 16 days across western Europe so we know we can do it. We will have two carry on bags (1 of which is a personal bag) and one checked bag each to carry all of our luggage. We also grabbed a 911 from our dealers lot and loaded our soft luggage with pillows and put them in the car to make sure it all fit. We did the same with the 981 in preparation for that trip.

We wouldn't want to get to Leipzig and then realize that we over packed.

Originally Posted by Z356
Comrade Subshooter:

Technically, I believe you will be driving through only four of the former
Soviet Block countries. They would be East Germany, Czechoslovakia,
Hungary & Romania. Back then, the Czech Republic & Slovakia were
one single country. And Yugoslavia is today's Croatia, Bosnia/Herzegovina,
Montenegro, Slovenia, Kosovo, Serbia-Vojvodina & Macedonia was
not considered a puppet of the Soviets after Tito & Stalin split in 1948.
Nor did it ever joined the Warsaw Pact. So it was not Soviet Block.
You are absolutely right. Thank you for the education. I thought Yugoslavia was one of the Soviet block countries but it was still one of the communist countries of eastern Europe. The countries that Yugoslavia broke up into fit the intent of the original post.
Old 05-20-2017, 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Need4S
+1. https://www.stopngo.com/

We did Euro delivery and the most adventurous place we visited was Prague, but learned later that places in Germany were worse for car theft!
Thanks!
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Originally Posted by subshooter
I am doing a European Delivery in about 6 weeks and taking a slightly different route than most would take. I will be driving through 8 ex-Soviet Block countries and I am a bit concerned about what to do if I get a flat, destroy a tire or something worse.

Below are some of the things I have done to prepare.

1. I have watched hours of driving videos through all of these countries along the route that I am taking to ensure I understand road quality, traffic conditions and driving habits. Roads are surprisingly good and comparable to I-95 in most places.

2. I have plotted all the Porsche dealerships along my route so I know which one to call or where to get towed to. Basically every capital has a Porsche dealership. Even Bratislava has a small Porsche dealership.

3. Of course, I have the goo and compressor that comes with the car.

4. Porsche provides customers with a road side assistance during European Delivery but I'm not sure how effective that is going to be in Romania or Serbia.

Any other suggestions? Are there other types of small fix-a-flat kits that I should bring just in case? I wont be able to remove the wheel though myself and I would not haul the tools along to do it.

Route is below: Thanks.


Awesome route, but that is a lot of driving. How many miles is it over how many days?

I've done Euro delivery 3 times, and my recommendation is that you should stay at least 2 days in every hotel you use. Otherwise your balance of sightseeing, relaxing, vacation will be out of whack with the ratio of driving. While we all love cars, long drives daily defeats the purpose of a vacation. Plus it's hard on your spouse.


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