Ordering a 991.2 GTS - will be doing European delivery - best discount to shoot for?
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Looking for recent orders to get an idea of what to target.
Will be ~$140,000 build.
I know Euro delivery costs the dealership some $$$.
Any recent experience?
Thanks in advance.
Will be ~$140,000 build.
I know Euro delivery costs the dealership some $$$.
Any recent experience?
Thanks in advance.
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Hey Jason:
I hope to see you at Road America (with Josh and Mr. S.) in September again!
Lucky us, we have like 7 local dealerships to fight for our custom order bizz. You should be able to get 4%. Some might be as aggressive as 8%.
Also be willing to go to Wisconsin (not that far from you) or even the guy in the Quad Cities. Your buddies in Springfield won't be aggressive, but you can try.
I'd say find your best deal, then give Orland Park your last shot to beat it. Talk to Bob B. there.
I hope to see you at Road America (with Josh and Mr. S.) in September again!
Lucky us, we have like 7 local dealerships to fight for our custom order bizz. You should be able to get 4%. Some might be as aggressive as 8%.
Also be willing to go to Wisconsin (not that far from you) or even the guy in the Quad Cities. Your buddies in Springfield won't be aggressive, but you can try.
I'd say find your best deal, then give Orland Park your last shot to beat it. Talk to Bob B. there.
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Hey there!
I'm at 5% now including Euro Delivery which is about $3000 from what I understand.
So that's 7% if I were to take local delivery - not too bad.
Wanted to get a feel for what others are negotiating.
I'm going to make some more calls for sure!
I'm at 5% now including Euro Delivery which is about $3000 from what I understand.
So that's 7% if I were to take local delivery - not too bad.
Wanted to get a feel for what others are negotiating.
I'm going to make some more calls for sure!
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Chicago purchase and European delivery also. In my experience, European delivery decreases your leverage with price negotiation (but I'd do it again in a heartbeat). It supposedly costs the dealership 3K, which they can semi make back with the additional allocation they're given.
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I am not sure about Porsche, but at BMW the European Delivery invoice and MSRP are lower than the regular invoice and MSRP. When I did European Delivery on my BMW I got close to 15% off regular MSRP. And Lufthansa had a special with free companion ticket. It was a no brainer!!
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I would have done ED but the VAT tax killed my deal. I was used to getting $500 to $1000 over dealers' invoice at BMW plus the 7% ED discount. Thank you BMW for allowing me to get into my dream car. Don't get me wrong, I am still a BMW loyal customer!
I would ask for 8% discount on ED and settle for 7% as your last offer. The $3000 is irrelevant since like someone mentioned the dealer gets to replace the car with an extra allocation that they can sell at full price.
If you do European Delivery make Munich your base and then pick up the car in Stuttgart and head out and visit Bavaria.
I would ask for 8% discount on ED and settle for 7% as your last offer. The $3000 is irrelevant since like someone mentioned the dealer gets to replace the car with an extra allocation that they can sell at full price.
If you do European Delivery make Munich your base and then pick up the car in Stuttgart and head out and visit Bavaria.
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Thank you all for the great advice.
I did not realize they will get a replacement car and this would not count as one of their normal allocations.
I did not realize they will get a replacement car and this would not count as one of their normal allocations.
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Originally Posted by trucheli
I would have done ED but the VAT tax killed my deal. I was used to getting $500 to $1000 over dealers' invoice at BMW plus the 7% ED discount. Thank you BMW for allowing me to get into my dream car. Don't get me wrong, I am still a BMW loyal customer!
I would ask for 8% discount on ED and settle for 7% as your last offer. The $3000 is irrelevant since like someone mentioned the dealer gets to replace the car with an extra allocation that they can sell at full price.
If you do European Delivery make Munich your base and then pick up the car in Stuttgart and head out and visit Bavaria.
I would ask for 8% discount on ED and settle for 7% as your last offer. The $3000 is irrelevant since like someone mentioned the dealer gets to replace the car with an extra allocation that they can sell at full price.
If you do European Delivery make Munich your base and then pick up the car in Stuttgart and head out and visit Bavaria.
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Originally Posted by trucheli
It all depends on your knowledge about the car business and negotiation skills.
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Hopefully others in a similar situation will be able to help you. I bought mine off the lot new but prior year's model with a punched warranty (4 month loss) but scored 23% off.
You're buying a new, hot car and the timing is not on your side, waiting will help but unsure if that's an option for you....
Good luck and keep us posted.
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Originally Posted by Bemo
The dealer can't wait to have you and swallow you at once! ![cherrsagai](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/drink.gif)
Hopefully others in a similar situation will be able to help you. I bought mine off the lot new but prior year's model with a punched warranty (4 month loss) but scored 23% off.
You're buying a new, hot car and the timing is not on your side, waiting will help but unsure if that's an option for you....
Good luck and keep us posted.![order](https://rennlist.com/forums/graemlins/order.gif)
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Hopefully others in a similar situation will be able to help you. I bought mine off the lot new but prior year's model with a punched warranty (4 month loss) but scored 23% off.
You're buying a new, hot car and the timing is not on your side, waiting will help but unsure if that's an option for you....
Good luck and keep us posted.
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BTW, I agree with you. I don't think that the OP will get 7% off at this time, but all the more power to him/her if he/she's able to.
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My 2015 991.1 GTS was purchased in August 2015, the car had 116 miles on the clock and was the only GTS on the lot. I was able to secure a 7% discount plus the tax deduction for trading in my 2015 M4 with 6000 miles. The Dealer has BMW, Audi and Porsche brands. I had a ten year relationship with the sales manager who approved my deal. IMHO it is very important to develop a long term relationship with the dealership in order to be able to get the best deal possible. I am in sales and I do not nickel and dime my deals as a buyer nor as a seller. 7% is not very common for a brand new car but it can be done. If you get 5% consider it a fair deal.