Notices
991 2012-2019
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

991s track usage

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 06-23-2017, 11:03 PM
  #46  
RonD
Intermediate
 
RonD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Carmel, CA
Posts: 45
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

No I have not done a track day yet. The wheels arrived 2 days ago. I have them on the car and have done some street driving. My next scheduled track day is July 11, but may try to do a half day at Laguna this Sunday. So far they feel great. I will certainly post a report after I get a track day in.
Old 07-11-2017, 07:13 PM
  #47  
RonD
Intermediate
 
RonD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Carmel, CA
Posts: 45
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by o2bcdn
RonD - have you had a chance to track the 19" RE-71Rs yet? Curious how they performed!
Only got one session in today with the 255/35/19 and 305/30/19 RE71R due to a nail in tire and damaged side wall. But the setup felt good. Balance is better than my previous tire Cup2 combo 245/35/20 305/30/20. Definitely no issues with PSM etc.

I would have liked, of course to have spent more time with the new tires, but I'm quite sure I'm going to like this setup. My guess is they will be slightly faster than Cup2s. I felt like I was taking it easy, warming up the tires, getting a feel for them, but I still had, for me, a decent lap time. Couple of 1:40s.

Just ordered the replacement tire. Hopefully it will arrive before my next track day on the 17th and I will get in a full track day.
Old 07-11-2017, 08:14 PM
  #48  
o2bcdn
Intermediate
 
o2bcdn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2012
Posts: 49
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by RonD
Only got one session in today with the 255/35/19 and 305/30/19 RE71R due to a nail in tire and damaged side wall. But the setup felt good. Balance is better than my previous tire Cup2 combo 245/35/20 305/30/20. Definitely no issues with PSM etc.

I would have liked, of course to have spent more time with the new tires, but I'm quite sure I'm going to like this setup. My guess is they will be slightly faster than Cup2s. I felt like I was taking it easy, warming up the tires, getting a feel for them, but I still had, for me, a decent lap time. Couple of 1:40s.

Just ordered the replacement tire. Hopefully it will arrive before my next track day on the 17th and I will get in a full track day.

Sorry to hear about the bad luck. Great to hear about your experience with the tires...really looking forward to the full report!!
Old 07-11-2017, 08:49 PM
  #49  
erko1905
Burning Brakes
 
erko1905's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: NYC
Posts: 833
Received 86 Likes on 56 Posts
Default

Thanks for the thread and everyone chiming in, very useful.

I've been running 255/35-20 & 305/30-20 MPS4S on the half inch wider (9 front, 11.5 rear) Sport Technos on my 1.1 C4S, and through two events, NJMP Thunderbolt & Pocono, it worked out fairly well (Pocono layouts that use a lot of the oval are very hard on gear). This is with the stock control arms, front camber maxed out. Pagid RS29 yellows & Motul 600. Front rotors look almost shot after two weekends, will look into Girodiscs right after those.

So it seems like we have two approaches with regards to going down to 19s, the 255/35-19 F & 305/30-19 R approach (keep the width) or the 245/40-19 F & 295/35-19 R approach (keep the diameter).

Eventually I do want to move to proper track tires myself, but there are absolutely no options at the size I'm currently running, except fairly dated Pirelli Corsa System, probably last of that inventory. So the next option is going down to 19s, get a lighter wheel, reduce some unsprung mass, but it seems like I have to choose either width or diameter.

I have a feeling I'd rather keep the diameter the same and get more sidewall, but what are the thoughts on pros & cons on those two sizes? Does one have more options available for it on a regular basis? (Toyos, Nittos, Hoosiers etc - eventually for when I have the skills to rock that stuff )

Last edited by erko1905; 07-11-2017 at 09:48 PM.
Old 07-31-2017, 09:00 AM
  #50  
mdrums
Race Director
 
mdrums's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tampa
Posts: 15,358
Received 179 Likes on 126 Posts
Default

Getting my 2017 GTS ready for the track in a few months....thinking of sticking with stock 20" tire size in Sport Cup 2's but the RE71R in 19" size 255/305 would be awesome too. I have Rear wheel Steer and it seems up in the air if 19" wheels or maybe just some manufactures wheels in 19" fit.

Deffintly doing front Giro Disc rotors...everyone I know keeps saying do the Race Tech RE10 pads though but I use to do Pagid Yellow/Black combo on my 2012 GTS. Also Tarret clapper studs.

Is there any advice or trick to installing caliper studs?
Old 07-31-2017, 10:16 AM
  #51  
strandolph
Rennlist Member
 
strandolph's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Bowie, MD
Posts: 230
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mdrums
Is there any advice or trick to installing caliper studs?
I just followed instructions - nothing to it. Just blow the carrier threads out with compressed air prior to installing the studs. And make sure you buy the correct length studs for the Giros.
Old 07-31-2017, 10:43 AM
  #52  
BradB
Drifting
 
BradB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,066
Received 43 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

I'm a Pagid user, also. Quite happy with them. I couldn't justify the Giro Discs. The math didn't make sense for me.

The Tarrett studs are awesome. Simple install with basic tools. You may want to use a wire or coat hanger to hold the caliper up out of the way. And loosen the wheel sensor attaching point on the upright to give yourself more room to move the caliper out of the way.
Old 07-31-2017, 06:44 PM
  #53  
Jabs1542
Rennlist Member
 
Jabs1542's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Northern VA and Central FL
Posts: 1,132
Received 142 Likes on 86 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by strandolph
I just followed instructions - nothing to it. Just blow the carrier threads out with compressed air prior to installing the studs. And make sure you buy the correct length studs for the Giros.
Girodisks come with the longer studs, the proper length for the 991 (assuming you bought the correct set for the 991).
Old 08-03-2017, 01:54 AM
  #54  
mdrums
Race Director
 
mdrums's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tampa
Posts: 15,358
Received 179 Likes on 126 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by BradB
I'm a Pagid user, also. Quite happy with them. I couldn't justify the Giro Discs. The math didn't make sense for me.

The Tarrett studs are awesome. Simple install with basic tools. You may want to use a wire or coat hanger to hold the caliper up out of the way. And loosen the wheel sensor attaching point on the upright to give yourself more room to move the caliper out of the way.
Thanks! I used to do my own brake jobs (rotors/pads/flush) on my 997.2 GTS....I will probably remove the sensors clip and solder wires together so I don't have to mess with them. I did that on last 2 cars.
Old 08-03-2017, 01:55 AM
  #55  
mdrums
Race Director
 
mdrums's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tampa
Posts: 15,358
Received 179 Likes on 126 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Jabs1542
Girodisks come with the longer studs, the proper length for the 991 (assuming you bought the correct set for the 991).
Humm...good to know I won't have to buy caliper studs then...very cool!
Old 08-03-2017, 02:36 AM
  #56  
arter
Rennlist Member
 
arter's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2014
Posts: 1,063
Received 152 Likes on 92 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mdrums
Thanks! I used to do my own brake jobs (rotors/pads/flush) on my 997.2 GTS....I will probably remove the sensors clip and solder wires together so I don't have to mess with them. I did that on last 2 cars.
Don't need to solder the sensor wires together, just twist-tie the sensor out of the way. That way its still available if you go back to stock pads.
Old 08-03-2017, 09:40 AM
  #57  
Jabs1542
Rennlist Member
 
Jabs1542's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Northern VA and Central FL
Posts: 1,132
Received 142 Likes on 86 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by arter
Don't need to solder the sensor wires together, just twist-tie the sensor out of the way. That way its still available if you go back to stock pads.
Exactly what I did.
Old 08-03-2017, 10:23 AM
  #58  
Jason @ Paragon Products
Addict
Rennlist Member


Rennlist
Site Sponsor

 
Jason @ Paragon Products's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Corpus Christi, Texas
Posts: 1,463
Received 11 Likes on 11 Posts
Default

For those with PCCB, we now have the Pagid RBD discs for direct replacement.

Front

Rear


__________________
Your Porsche Parts Superstore

Parts | Tech-Session | Facebook | Youtube

Jason Burkett
Paragon Products - Porsche Parts & Accessories*- 800.200.9366
Tech Session - Porsche Tech & Info*- 361.289.8834
jason@paragon-products.com
Old 08-04-2017, 04:01 PM
  #59  
mdrums
Race Director
 
mdrums's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Tampa
Posts: 15,358
Received 179 Likes on 126 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by arter
Don't need to solder the sensor wires together, just twist-tie the sensor out of the way. That way its still available if you go back to stock pads.
just twisting the wire together and taping it...it comes apart with the heat and all. You don't need to use the sensors with the stock pads.
Twist and solder then heat shrink wrap so all toy have is the plug and a nub of wire....nice and clean.
Old 08-04-2017, 05:06 PM
  #60  
BradB
Drifting
 
BradB's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: St. Louis
Posts: 2,066
Received 43 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by arter
Don't need to solder the sensor wires together, just twist-tie the sensor out of the way. That way its still available if you go back to stock pads.
Yep, this works for me, too. Been that way for 4 years so far!



Quick Reply: 991s track usage



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 04:34 PM.