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View Poll Results: What type of bra is on your 911?
I don't need no bra, bro
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Front bra installed
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Full bra, like those 1950s swimsuits
14.57%
Full bra, 7 coats of wax, armed security guards
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Poll: Do you have clear bra / film on your 911? Would you get them again?

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Old 03-14-2017, 01:33 PM
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any car that I ever plan on using for any extended period of time I fully wrap and Ill never go back to not. It makes all of my scratch and swirl worries go away. You can wash the car with a little less care (for instance you can use quick detailer when there is a little more dust than you would normally be ok to do that on bare paint, and honestly the rock chip situation due to how crappy the new water based paints are is worth every damn penny. It is EASILY the best money I spend on any of these cars.
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Originally Posted by shaytun
So my OCD has me split on wether I want a clear bra on my next car. The first is the idea of someone taking your car apart (doors, wing, rear emblem etc) to do a solid coverage. How do you get under the rubber window and door seal? Do they come off? So there's that part. The other OCD side of me says if I don't I'll get microchips that will bother me and I may have to respray the front of the car years later. I'm assuming cost difference is nil. I remember a lot of proponents of "enjoy car and respray later" on these forums, but they seem to be less vocal now.
You raise really good points about the full body PPF coverage. I was worried about the same things, that's why I set up the poll. Discussion here has helped me decide to go with front bra + rear quarter panel.

I will have to satisfy my OCD by waxing rest of the body to perfect shine!
Old 03-14-2017, 03:58 PM
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There wasn't an option to pick what mine has. They call the track package. It covers more than the frontal bra, but not the entire car. Mine has the sunroof in glass, so only the frontal portion along side and above the windshield have the film. And I had the door edges done too. Then the Expel film was covered with a thicker softer film than protects against bigger stonesand self heals. It looks great for a car show, but not for condors. The thick film has some very subtle wavyness in a few places that can be seen under certain light conditions. I like the extra protection.
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Old 03-15-2017, 04:24 AM
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I think the only reason I'd go full car PPF is if I had a color to which I was interested in applying Xpel Stealth to get that satin/matte look.
Old 03-15-2017, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 1809
I think the only reason I'd go full car PPF is if I had a color to which I was interested in applying Xpel Stealth to get that satin/matte look.
+1 Front wrap and full car ceramic seems a better cost/benefit option.
Old 03-15-2017, 09:54 AM
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I never had any type of bra before wrapping my E63 wagon right after I got it last summer.

Up until then, I had always seen the old, poor wrap jobs and heard about all the horror stories that some people here have mentioned.

However, I decided to go with the best installer I could and wrapped (Xpel Ultimate) the full front clip, A-pillars, mirrors, rocker panels and full rear bumper cover. Finally, I had the entire car covered with Ceramic Pro Plus.

Despite the experiences that some people have shared, not even ONE person has been able to tell I have a wrap. Even after I tell them, they've struggled to see it. Wrapped panels look no different than unwrapped panels right next to them. My installer did a custom wrap around all edges, and there's only one part where there's a visible edge (around the Mercedes logo on the hood).

So far, it's definitely saved me from a scrape against a wall and some very likely rock chips.

It's a lot of money, but I'd probably do it for any car I was going to keep for a while. I don't think I could bring myself to do it for a leased or short-term car.

BTW, this is on a dark metallic purple-ish blue color car.
Old 03-15-2017, 03:16 PM
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don't like to type so i agree in full. saved my front end on multiple occasions. replaced adjacent panels without any issues when they became too marked up. cannot tell any difference.
Old 03-15-2017, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by shaytun
How do you get under the rubber window and door seal? Do they come off? So there's that part.

if you do the whole car, do they no longer put a separate rear fender piece like the factory or is that still placed on top of the bra?
Shaytun- A good installer has no problem "tucking" the trimmed film under the door and window sills, the door sill, the sunroof/moonroof rubber stripping, and so on. Quite simple to pull-back the rubber enough to work the film under, and in cases like the stiff window-sill trim running along the upper-edge of the door panel there are special tucking/wrapping tools that are used. You really shouldn't see or feel the edges of a great wrap job.... PPF or color-wrap.

As for doing a whole car, and whether you keep the OE stone guard film in place is totally up to you.... I've seen and done both. With PPF not that big of a deal, but on solid-color changes you end up with an "embossed" area where the vinyl covers the stone guard. Just keep in mind that the OE film is not hidden with PPF so you will probably want to replace the pieces or just remove before adding film, and more so if they've been on for a while.
Old 03-15-2017, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by rk-d
I'm sorry but this is wrong. Even the best installers will tell you that nothing shines like raw paint.

You may not notice enough to care, but it doesn't mean others won't.
I agree. I have the front treatment. I notice reflections on the door are sharper than the front fender but agree if the whole car was wrapped it wouldn't be noticed. You have to look for it.
Old 03-15-2017, 07:58 PM
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A question for the folks with just a front wrap. Do the flared areas (wide body models) of the rear quarter panel near the door get any pitting of the paint? This seems like a vulnerable area.
Old 03-15-2017, 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Leader
Wrapped the entire "front clip" (all the way to the windshield, plus side mirrors) with 3M film. Would do it again. Shines up great. Cheap insurance against little stone chips. Did not cover the headlights or DRLs on the advice of installer.
Leader, looks beautiful. I have the same car and a front wrap but I'm considering wrapping the rear quarter panel since the flared area looks vulnerable.
Old 03-15-2017, 08:22 PM
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Old 03-16-2017, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by justabout
A question for the folks with just a front wrap. Do the flared areas (wide body models) of the rear quarter panel near the door get any pitting of the paint? This seems like a vulnerable area.
Yes. Wrap those areas also.
Old 03-16-2017, 03:51 PM
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Ditto - there is a factory applied heavy film, but depending on your car color it can show yellowing. Most professional installers will have a "hockey stick" pattern that does the rockers above the textured area and then it swoops on back often covering more than the OEM piece. I know - we have a C4s cab and the front of the hips take a beating.

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Old 03-16-2017, 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by STEK-USA
Ditto - there is a factory applied heavy film, but depending on your car color it can show yellowing. Most professional installers will have a "hockey stick" pattern that does the rockers above the textured area and then it swoops on back often covering more than the OEM piece. I know - we have a C4s cab and the front of the hips take a beating.

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I had the installer remove the heavy film and covered the area a bit higher and down along the painted skirt.



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