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Old 02-01-2017, 09:58 AM
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This looks very japanese.
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Originally Posted by R_Rated
WRX/STi.

They both have flat/H 4 + Turbo(single).
Wow.
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Originally Posted by Fabspeed Motorsport
Maybe Fab or another user can point me in the right direction. Is it wise for us to purchase the PSE and pursue aftermarket utilizing the valve option in the cabin? Personally, I would like to just avoid purchasing the PSE and replicate that straight pipe sound at all times. While some may find it obnoxious, I am coming from a 6.2 V8 with open headers, Borla exhaust, and a cam swap... so this will be tame for me. If I can avoid dipping nearly 3k, I actually prefer the way the C2S quads look and would love to drop straight pipes from there (its a weekend warrior, not a DD)

I do not want to risk back-pressure issues and I am not open to tuning for the first few years so that may complicate the issue and push me to PSE for the time being.
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Originally Posted by Brantley847
Maybe Fab or another user can point me in the right direction. Is it wise for us to purchase the PSE and pursue aftermarket utilizing the valve option in the cabin? Personally, I would like to just avoid purchasing the PSE and replicate that straight pipe sound at all times. While some may find it obnoxious, I am coming from a 6.2 V8 with open headers, Borla exhaust, and a cam swap... so this will be tame for me. If I can avoid dipping nearly 3k, I actually prefer the way the C2S quads look and would love to drop straight pipes from there.

I do not want to risk back-pressure issues and I am not open to tuning for the first few years so that may complicate the issue and push me to PSE for the time being.
If you have an S then the valve system is mostly there... i bought an aftermarket setup and only had to add the button + Programming @ ~200 bucks. If you KNOW you want aftermarket then this is a more economical approach by over 2K.

The debate will happen here on RL when people chime in about resale and illusions of having a perfect factory specimen in 300 years for a pristine paperweight/collectable.
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Originally Posted by Brantley847
Sweet baby Jameis Winston
I'll take that as a compliment lol

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That's the setup I'd have on a 991.2 haha. Without a doubt and the most cost effective option as well.
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This looks very japanese.
You and me both! It is quite a necksnapper haha. I believe the video took place in Thailand if i'm not mistaken.
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Originally Posted by Brantley847
Maybe Fab or another user can point me in the right direction. Is it wise for us to purchase the PSE and pursue aftermarket utilizing the valve option in the cabin? Personally, I would like to just avoid purchasing the PSE and replicate that straight pipe sound at all times. While some may find it obnoxious, I am coming from a 6.2 V8 with open headers, Borla exhaust, and a cam swap... so this will be tame for me. If I can avoid dipping nearly 3k, I actually prefer the way the C2S quads look and would love to drop straight pipes from there (its a weekend warrior, not a DD)

I do not want to risk back-pressure issues and I am not open to tuning for the first few years so that may complicate the issue and push me to PSE for the time being.
Well let's take a step back momentarily and analyze your goals. How would you best describe the "Straight Pipe Sound" that you are after achieving on your 991.2?
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Originally Posted by Fabspeed Motorsport
Well let's take a step back momentarily and analyze your goals. How would you best describe the "Straight Pipe Sound" that you are after achieving on your 991.2?
I haven't ordered yet, but looking at a build to order 991.2 C2S or C2.

The clip you provided (from Thailand?) was just about perfect. I understand there may be other factors involved to a particular build. I don't need the earth-shattering sound from my previous 6.2L V8, but again that clip was on-point. My concern is I don't want to spend 3k on a Porsche Sports Exhaust that honestly doesn't provide much more volume than stock from my experience both in person and listening to online vids/reviews. I am wondering if I am better off getting the PSE to take better advantage of one of your systems for example.. or if I could achieve similar sound profiles and volume without needing a valve switch. It will be a weekend warrior so it can run open all the time....not to mention I don't care for the exhaust and diffuser setup of the PSE.

I will consider tuning after the factory warranty, but not interested in risking that until the 4 years has passed.

Originally Posted by R_Rated
If you have an S then the valve system is mostly there... i bought an aftermarket setup and only had to add the button + Programming @ ~200 bucks. If you KNOW you want aftermarket then this is a more economical approach by over 2K.

The debate will happen here on RL when people chime in about resale and illusions of having a perfect factory specimen in 300 years for a pristine paperweight/collectable.
Yes, my thoughts exactly. My last car was heavily modified and sold above KBB with half the prestige of a 911 so I am not concerned with re-sale. Actually my hope is that this car runs well for 15+ years and I pass the car on like my father before me.

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Originally Posted by Fabspeed Motorsport
Throw some of our Sport Cats on the 991.2, put it in Sport mode with PSE on...be happy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gg-LDtuY6TQ
What's the impact on Porsche warranty?
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Originally Posted by R_Rated
991.2 sounds like a subaru.
No it doesn't

Originally Posted by R_Rated
WRX/STi.

They both have flat/H 4 + Turbo(single).
No they don't

A WRX STI has a flat four (EJ207 or EJ257), unequal length headers and a single turbo.

A 991.2 has a flat six with two turbo chargers.

The unique sound of the STI is due to the cylinder firing order and unequal length headers.

The 991.2 has the same firing order as the 991.1 and is a little quieter than the 991.1 due to the presence of the turbos.

Personally, I like the sound of the 991.2, it sounds fine in real life and in the cabin - particularly when you're on the gas.
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Last year at Amelia Island Concours I drove a McLaren 575 and after that I drove a 991.2 with sport exhaust - I asked the Porsche rep if the sport exhaust was really on.
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Originally Posted by Jerry991
Last year at Amelia Island Concours I drove a McLaren 575 and after that I drove a 991.2 with sport exhaust - I asked the Porsche rep if the sport exhaust was really on.
Cool story

You probably should chat to people that own them - or have driven them extensively. Perhaps even stop and think

(a) flat six engine
(b) same firing order as any other flat six
(c) only meaningful difference - two small turbos
(d) revs to 7500 as opposed to 7700
(e)..............this can only mean its slightly quieter, which is what it is
(f) its also less boomy
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Originally Posted by Mforni
Great Video demonstrating the sound difference. Wow, I am definitely never letting go of my GTS!
https://youtu.be/Ab5qCD0GIH8
They both sound pretty great to me.
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Originally Posted by Brantley847
I haven't ordered yet, but looking at a build to order 991.2 C2S or C2.

The clip you provided (from Thailand?) was just about perfect. I understand there may be other factors involved to a particular build. I don't need the earth-shattering sound from my previous 6.2L V8, but again that clip was on-point. My concern is I don't want to spend 3k on a Porsche Sports Exhaust that honestly doesn't provide much more volume than stock from my experience both in person and listening to online vids/reviews. I am wondering if I am better off getting the PSE to take better advantage of one of your systems for example.. or if I could achieve similar sound profiles and volume without needing a valve switch. It will be a weekend warrior so it can run open all the time....not to mention I don't care for the exhaust and diffuser setup of the PSE.

I will consider tuning after the factory warranty, but not interested in risking that until the 4 years has passed.
From my experience with our products, I would recommend getting the PSE and throwing at least a set of our catbypass pipes on it. The factory PSE center muffler (valves open) seems to have more of an aggressive sound potential than even our full system on a Non-PSE car. The cherry on top is you can push a button and make it near factory quiet for cruising on the highway. We can set you up with some O2 spacers to help minimize the CEL occurrence from deleting the cats until you decide to tune the car and we can shut it off completely.
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Originally Posted by GSIRM3
What's the impact on Porsche warranty?
All depends on your dealer. Most are quite open to modifications, we actual have many that are authorized distributors of our products and sell/install our products.

I see you're in NC, which is great because in the US you are actually protected by the Magnusson Moss Act. You can put aftermarket components on your car, and if there is a component failure that aftermarket piece has to have a conclusive correlation to the failure of the component to void the warranty coverage. For example, lets say you have our exhaust system and you have a water pump leak or your radio stops working. Completely unrelated, and they have to maintain your warranty. We are all lucky in that Porsche is much more lenient about upgrades than any other manufacturer we've ever worked with. Some dealerships even have their own aftermarket Motorsports division haha.

I'll shoot you a PM, we can chat more in detail about it

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No it doesn't



No they don't

A WRX STI has a flat four (EJ207 or EJ257), unequal length headers and a single turbo.

A 991.2 has a flat six with two turbo chargers.

The unique sound of the STI is due to the cylinder firing order and unequal length headers.

The 991.2 has the same firing order as the 991.1 and is a little quieter than the 991.1 due to the presence of the turbos.

Personally, I like the sound of the 991.2, it sounds fine in real life and in the cabin - particularly when you're on the gas.
Very educated response
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Originally Posted by randr
No it doesn't




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Yes it does.

And you have tiny hands.


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