911: 2017 Base vs 2015-2016 S
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,716
Likes: 61
From: Fort Washington, Pa
Girlfriend drove the .1S yesterday so I could take the YT out to the trails in her car. The 3.8 made the whole house rumble when she left. The 3.0 might be faked to sound similar from inside the cabin, but will never sound like a real car from the outside. Might as well go buy a Tesla.
Run it catless and I guarantee noone is calling that car a Tesla
I've been toying with the idea of trading in my S6 for a 911. I like a lot of the updates in the '17 models, but even the base (I'd get a AWD cab), is pushing my budget a bit. If I look at 2015-2016, I'd be able to get the 4S. I don't track the car - it's mostly for daily use, so I'd imagine the '17 base with the turbo (low end torque) would be the better way to go. What do you guys think?
__________________
Porsche Performance Specialist
John@Fabspeed.com
215-618-9796
Fabspeed Motorsport USA
155 Commerce Drive Fort Washington, PA 19034
www.Fabspeed.com
Porsche Performance Specialist
John@Fabspeed.com
215-618-9796
Fabspeed Motorsport USA
155 Commerce Drive Fort Washington, PA 19034
www.Fabspeed.com
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,716
Likes: 61
From: Fort Washington, Pa
Non PSE Sport Cats (or Catbypass Pipes)
Non-PSE X-Pipe
Non-PSE Deluxe Quad Tips
Three Wheelin'
Joined: Jun 2015
Posts: 1,950
Likes: 137
From: SLC, Utah
Basic Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Rennlist
Site Sponsor
Joined: Nov 2006
Posts: 4,716
Likes: 61
From: Fort Washington, Pa
To note, they are some applications where you can run catless and we can tune the ECU to not set a CEL and set the emissions monitors. It would then be up to you to find someone that doesn't do a visual emissions inspection. However, the 991.2 is not yet supported for ECU tuning, so that option is not yet on the table. You could also try running O2 spacers, and if you're car isn't very sensitive to the emissions parameters you can reduce the CEL occurrence enough to set the monitors and get through the test that way.
Thread Starter
Pro
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 712
Likes: 125
From: North NJ
I don't mind the TTS, especially since it has AWD. However, I really need the back-bench + cabriolet.
Rennlist Stories
The Best Porsche Posts for Porsche Enthusiasts
10 Porsche Colors That Have More Personality Than Most People
Verdad Gallardo
Guntherwerks' Final Speedster Creation Is the Ultimate Porsche Restomod
Verdad Gallardo
10 Reasons I Hate Going to the Porsche Dealership (& the 1 Reason I Stay)
Joe Kucinski
Porsche Shakes Up The Nürburgring Lap Record Table Once Again
Verdad Gallardo
6 Ways the Porsche 911 GT3 S/C Redefines Performance
Joe Kucinski
10 Wildest Homologation Specials Porsche Ever Sold
Verdad Gallardo
Super Rare RUF BTR III Comes Out of Hibernation, Looking For a New Home
Verdad Gallardo
10 Porsche Opinions That Can Start a Fight
Joe Kucinski
One-Off Porsche 911 S/T Takes Inspiration From Famous '70s Race Car
Verdad Gallardo
Pro
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 662
Likes: 43
From: New England
Figure out your budget, and then take some test drives. You can drive a '15 for a couple years, and then trade up to a CPO '17 if that is really what you want.
Drifting
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 3,465
Likes: 311
From: Midtown Atlanta
^^ Trade "up"?
[The preceding comment was offered only in jest, not meant to give offense or umbrage to any, and hopefully will serve as a healing bridge between the two factions represented on the 991 board. Blessings on all...]
[The preceding comment was offered only in jest, not meant to give offense or umbrage to any, and hopefully will serve as a healing bridge between the two factions represented on the 991 board. Blessings on all...]
Pro
Joined: Mar 2016
Posts: 662
Likes: 43
From: New England
Rennlist Member
Joined: Aug 2016
Posts: 1,789
Likes: 470
From: Fairfield County, CT
Overall, although close IMO, I give the edge to the .2 because the host of other improvements slightly outweigh the rather awkward sounding turbo exhaust note.
Having said all that it's not hard to see why others would feel that the 991.1 is better because of the great N/A motor and heartier exhaust note.
Last edited by bluehorseshoe; Nov 17, 2016 at 07:17 PM.
Intermediate
Joined: May 2014
Posts: 41
Likes: 2
From: Los Angeles
Amelen, did you used to frequent the Macan forums? Your handle and story sound familiar to me.
If so, I also moved from a Macan eventually to a 2017 911 C4 (with a BMW stop along the way after my Macan was unfortunately totaled in a car accident).
I looked at 911.1's and .2's and did extensive test driving. Since you are coming from a S6 and Macan I will presume that you value that type of ride. I found the 911.2 to be much smoother and comfortable than the .1 I did not think I could daily drive a .1, but plan to daily drive my .2 when she arrives. The suspension is different enough to be noticeable. My good friend has a '14 C2S cabriolet with pasm and it feels different to both of us.
The base was plenty of car for me, although I did go C4, preferred the feel of having some weight up front.
If so, I also moved from a Macan eventually to a 2017 911 C4 (with a BMW stop along the way after my Macan was unfortunately totaled in a car accident).
I looked at 911.1's and .2's and did extensive test driving. Since you are coming from a S6 and Macan I will presume that you value that type of ride. I found the 911.2 to be much smoother and comfortable than the .1 I did not think I could daily drive a .1, but plan to daily drive my .2 when she arrives. The suspension is different enough to be noticeable. My good friend has a '14 C2S cabriolet with pasm and it feels different to both of us.
The base was plenty of car for me, although I did go C4, preferred the feel of having some weight up front.
I've been toying with the idea of trading in my S6 for a 911. I like a lot of the updates in the '17 models, but even the base (I'd get a AWD cab), is pushing my budget a bit. If I look at 2015-2016, I'd be able to get the 4S. I don't track the car - it's mostly for daily use, so I'd imagine the '17 base with the turbo (low end torque) would be the better way to go. What do you guys think?
Thread Starter
Pro
Joined: Sep 2014
Posts: 712
Likes: 125
From: North NJ
Amelen, did you used to frequent the Macan forums? Your handle and story sound familiar to me.
If so, I also moved from a Macan eventually to a 2017 911 C4 (with a BMW stop along the way after my Macan was unfortunately totaled in a car accident).
I looked at 911.1's and .2's and did extensive test driving. Since you are coming from a S6 and Macan I will presume that you value that type of ride. I found the 911.2 to be much smoother and comfortable than the .1 I did not think I could daily drive a .1, but plan to daily drive my .2 when she arrives. The suspension is different enough to be noticeable. My good friend has a '14 C2S cabriolet with pasm and it feels different to both of us.
The base was plenty of car for me, although I did go C4, preferred the feel of having some weight up front.
If so, I also moved from a Macan eventually to a 2017 911 C4 (with a BMW stop along the way after my Macan was unfortunately totaled in a car accident).
I looked at 911.1's and .2's and did extensive test driving. Since you are coming from a S6 and Macan I will presume that you value that type of ride. I found the 911.2 to be much smoother and comfortable than the .1 I did not think I could daily drive a .1, but plan to daily drive my .2 when she arrives. The suspension is different enough to be noticeable. My good friend has a '14 C2S cabriolet with pasm and it feels different to both of us.
The base was plenty of car for me, although I did go C4, preferred the feel of having some weight up front.