The 991 versus the BMW M2 - My Observations
10-25-2016, 06:44 PM
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+1. I have a 5 series for kid duty. I can take my daughter straight out of the shower and put her in brand new clothes in a clean house and carry her to the car. magically when she gets out, wherever she sat will be covered in dirt. Last weekend is was a gummy bear she sat on(she's 9 and now in the front seat sometimes) so she turned on the seat heater to make sure and melt it into the vented seat as good as she could.... I don't know how it happens but she's talented that way!
10-25-2016, 08:34 PM
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What BMW did? They wanted to make a car they could sell to people that really don't drive anymore. People that grew up boosting hondas and have found their way into careers and good jobs that used to argue about trap speeds and 0-60 times in the early days of internet forums.
That's what BMW did.
That's what BMW did.
Personally I think BMW stepped up to the plate, took on board the feedback in relation to the M3 and M4 and as a consequence produced and excellent "entry" level M car.
Have a test drive its enlightening
10-26-2016, 08:54 AM
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Did you really write the above? BMW have built avery effective car in the M2 - its actually a very good drive and not far off, in terms of performance, from a base 991.2 C2.
Personally I think BMW stepped up to the plate, took on board the feedback in relation to the M3 and M4 and as a consequence produced and excellent "entry" level M car.
Have a test drive its enlightening
Personally I think BMW stepped up to the plate, took on board the feedback in relation to the M3 and M4 and as a consequence produced and excellent "entry" level M car.
Have a test drive its enlightening
Vs Porsche. 50 Launches on a turbo S with no problem? Yes. You'd break a BMW without launch control.
10-26-2016, 01:28 PM
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Maybe 718 Cayman vs M2 instead?
The M2 is a modern BMW M car bargain, barely no luxury or options. It's almost reminds me to the E36 M3 in the US that didn't really have an M engine, purely marketing. At $55k loaded, it makes it hard to look at a fully loaded M4 going for $86k nowadays. The stupidest thing BMW did is not reducing the weight of the M2 as they did for the 1M. Sure the M2 "feels" light, but you can't defy physics that it weighs as much as a 4-door larger M3 at 3,505 lbs. I drove an M2, I'm impressed of the nimble "feels" due to shorter wheel base. I also owned an F80 M3 in the past, F10 M5, etc and now an X5M that's in and out of the shop (awful decision)... I would say the M2 is the purest BMW made since the E46 M3 which agrees with reviewers.
But to compare it with a base 911 that weights less than 3,153lbs + more power is not even in the same league. Even your Cab is lighter at 3,329lbs (991.2). Perhaps you like the more torque (boost), then time to switch to a 991.1. As stated above, I came from many boosted BMW Ms. I'm super happy with 991.1 GTS, never going back to another BMW.
I would compare an M2 ($55k) to a base 718 Cayman ($55k no options, track use), but never a 911. A 718 Cayman is 500lbs lighter than an M2 and now boosted with more torque. Since they're not discounting the M2, you can easily get the Cayman discounted to be $51-52k stripped version. So I suggest test driving a Cayman and would be interested to hear your feedback then. =)
But to compare it with a base 911 that weights less than 3,153lbs + more power is not even in the same league. Even your Cab is lighter at 3,329lbs (991.2). Perhaps you like the more torque (boost), then time to switch to a 991.1. As stated above, I came from many boosted BMW Ms. I'm super happy with 991.1 GTS, never going back to another BMW.
I would compare an M2 ($55k) to a base 718 Cayman ($55k no options, track use), but never a 911. A 718 Cayman is 500lbs lighter than an M2 and now boosted with more torque. Since they're not discounting the M2, you can easily get the Cayman discounted to be $51-52k stripped version. So I suggest test driving a Cayman and would be interested to hear your feedback then. =)
10-26-2016, 03:09 PM
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Again such different price targets most people don't have to make that decision it's decided for them.
Some of us here have other 911s and the M2 is just for sh*ts and grins without the anxiety of something happening to it.
Some of us here have other 911s and the M2 is just for sh*ts and grins without the anxiety of something happening to it.
10-26-2016, 03:23 PM
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10-27-2016, 06:00 PM
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Lets spice up the equation a CPO C2S from 2013-2014 era or a brand new M2? Pricing should come in pretty close. (when considering BMW dealer markup) I know which I would go with :-)
10-27-2016, 07:00 PM
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10-27-2016, 08:31 PM
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Did you really write the above? BMW have built avery effective car in the M2 - its actually a very good drive and not far off, in terms of performance, from a base 991.2 C2.
Personally I think BMW stepped up to the plate, took on board the feedback in relation to the M3 and M4 and as a consequence produced and excellent "entry" level M car.
Have a test drive its enlightening
Personally I think BMW stepped up to the plate, took on board the feedback in relation to the M3 and M4 and as a consequence produced and excellent "entry" level M car.
Have a test drive its enlightening
Jim
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10-27-2016, 08:41 PM
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I am actually starting to enjoy my M4 more and more as a daily driver. As a 2015, I think it was about 75K loaded up and with a small discount. If people are really considering 65K for an M2 I would say it is worth the delta to pay a little more for a M4. It has been more reliable over more miles than my GTS which was about 50K more plus 4 years of all maintenance free except tires. Don't get me wrong. The Porsche is my keeper and great car to drive. It feels fast, but I am pretty sure the M car is faster
Jim
Jim