991 Straight Line
04-13-2016, 11:41 AM
#61
Instructor
I think you should buy a mustang. Seriously, go buy a GT350 and you'll be very happy. Plenty of straight line acceleration.
04-13-2016, 12:18 PM
#62
Drifting
a) I hate Mustangs. Nasty redneck cars.
b) I'm a former road racer and not particularly interested in straight line acceleration contests. If I were, I'd have either replaced my previous 911 Turbo with another, or gone with some form of Z06, etc. And as far as road racing, the truth is the GT350 and Camaro Z28 seem to be outstanding at that. In fact, for the money I spent on a GTS I could have bought a Viper ACR and had a car with faster times than the 918 at Willow Springs and some other fast tracks. But I'd be driving a Viper. And not only that, one with a giant wing out back. Not gonna happen.
The fact that a new Mustang (and many other cars) can outrun a GTS within a certain narrow set of parameters doesn't mean I want one.
I also find it interesting that, with such love for the GTS, you have a 16 and are shopping for something faster. Seems strange, but then I tend to keep my Porsches a little longer.
b) I'm a former road racer and not particularly interested in straight line acceleration contests. If I were, I'd have either replaced my previous 911 Turbo with another, or gone with some form of Z06, etc. And as far as road racing, the truth is the GT350 and Camaro Z28 seem to be outstanding at that. In fact, for the money I spent on a GTS I could have bought a Viper ACR and had a car with faster times than the 918 at Willow Springs and some other fast tracks. But I'd be driving a Viper. And not only that, one with a giant wing out back. Not gonna happen.
The fact that a new Mustang (and many other cars) can outrun a GTS within a certain narrow set of parameters doesn't mean I want one.
I also find it interesting that, with such love for the GTS, you have a 16 and are shopping for something faster. Seems strange, but then I tend to keep my Porsches a little longer.
04-13-2016, 12:58 PM
#63
Instructor
Nothing to do with the GTS or wanting something faster. I want something more exciting, more exotic. Fulfilling my dream really.
04-13-2016, 01:09 PM
#64
Race Director
04-13-2016, 02:00 PM
#66
04-13-2016, 02:20 PM
#67
NoGaBiker,
My compliments to you for being an open-minded auto enthusiast and the patience you've exercised with others in this thread.
I still enjoy my Mustang immensely. It's old. It's dangerous. It's high-proof, low-refinement, and great fun. I found your perspective and first-hand experiences insightful compared to the "I read a magazine and my Porsche is faster" crowd.
Oh, and the area under the torque curve is often times more important than peak torque output and I think your rolling experiment confirmed that.
My compliments to you for being an open-minded auto enthusiast and the patience you've exercised with others in this thread.
I still enjoy my Mustang immensely. It's old. It's dangerous. It's high-proof, low-refinement, and great fun. I found your perspective and first-hand experiences insightful compared to the "I read a magazine and my Porsche is faster" crowd.
Oh, and the area under the torque curve is often times more important than peak torque output and I think your rolling experiment confirmed that.
04-13-2016, 03:14 PM
#70
Drifting
You did a 65-130 rolling start run and absolutely walked him? Because unless that's the case, your data bears no relevance to what happened to me. Not to say it's irrelevant in toto, but I think everybody agrees that in a 0-whatever run the 911 is going to win, at least based on testing results in magazines.
04-13-2016, 03:19 PM
#71
Drifting
NoGaBiker,
My compliments to you for being an open-minded auto enthusiast and the patience you've exercised with others in this thread.
I still enjoy my Mustang immensely. It's old. It's dangerous. It's high-proof, low-refinement, and great fun. I found your perspective and first-hand experiences insightful compared to the "I read a magazine and my Porsche is faster" crowd.
Oh, and the area under the torque curve is often times more important than peak torque output and I think your rolling experiment confirmed that.
My compliments to you for being an open-minded auto enthusiast and the patience you've exercised with others in this thread.
I still enjoy my Mustang immensely. It's old. It's dangerous. It's high-proof, low-refinement, and great fun. I found your perspective and first-hand experiences insightful compared to the "I read a magazine and my Porsche is faster" crowd.
Oh, and the area under the torque curve is often times more important than peak torque output and I think your rolling experiment confirmed that.
).Like I said early on, if Ford wrapped a car I liked around that Coyote it would be on my short list. Hell of a good motor.
04-13-2016, 04:58 PM
#72
Instructor
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Yes, you can tell me that all day long. Or you could go do what I did and have more than a bench-racing opinion.
Seriously, though, why don't you forget about badges and address the 2nd to last paragraph in Post 50, the "hypothetical" I posed? Funny how if the cars wear badges "A" and "B" rather than Mustang and 911 it doesn't seem preposterous at all. At that point the only thing that seems preposterous is to learn that Car A costs $35,000 and Car B costs $135,000!
Or you could go do what I did and have more than a bench-racing opinion. Seriously, though, why don't you forget about badges and address the 2nd to last paragraph in Post 50, the "hypothetical" I posed? Funny how if the cars wear badges "A" and "B" rather than Mustang and 911 it doesn't seem preposterous at all. At that point the only thing that seems preposterous is to learn that Car A costs $35,000 and Car B costs $135,000!
04-13-2016, 06:02 PM
#73
Drifting
04-13-2016, 06:09 PM
#74
Rennlist Member
Was coming up on a newer Mustang GT on an open stretch of TX hwy. He got the jump on me and I could not catch him in the 50th. I shut it down at approx. 160mph. T
04-13-2016, 06:49 PM
#75
You did a 65-130 rolling start run and absolutely walked him? Because unless that's the case, your data bears no relevance to what happened to me. Not to say it's irrelevant in toto, but I think everybody agrees that in a 0-whatever run the 911 is going to win, at least based on testing results in magazines.