Techart vs H&R springs...
#136
Hi Stout, I have just purchased Tractive Coilovers that are controlled by an updated software on the DFC control module. Its like S-PASM on steroids lol. Porsche collect a lot of data, but PASM is not using much of it. That is where DSC comes in. Then the Tractive coilovers react to that information 17 x faster than PASM. It is the only system that can adjust mid stroke. I am dying to see if 75 / 150 will be stock like comfortable and way better on the track.
#137
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I liked the TechArt springs on oem b4 non-pasm shocks on my base 997.2 carrera. Switched to Bilstein b6 shocks and ride was firmer and a little more harsh. Car still leaned too much initially and was too soft. Ok or great for around town. No good for track. Attributable to initially softer spring rates on progressive techarts which are eibach. Same opinion about eibach in my Audi A4 and Mercedes 190e. My ohlins with significantly stiffer spring rates don’t feel significantly stiffer than stock. I know they are but the shock controls it better. I’m at 8 out of 20 for Max firmness on Rear and 7 in the front. Sometimes easier to chat about this. Pm me if you want to discuss. I know that you routinely test drive cars so you may be able to put into words what I learned and felt with different set ups and lowering springs etc.
#138
Rennlist Member
Here to learn, also, and some interesting feedback above. Always wondered about how PASM would do over the longer haul with stiffer and "shorter" springs, whether they would wear quicker, and by how much. Can't take any of the above as gospel without more data, but it looks like I am about to collect some myself.
As for DSC, Tractive, etc, you don't have to convince me of the genius when it comes to suspension out of TPC. I've been a fan of their work for nearly 20 years now...every car of theirs I've spent time with—and some of them a lot of time with—has been nothing less than brilliant. If I ever do a full-on road car suspension the right way, there's a very good chance the car will be shipped to Maryland. And that says a lot, as there are good shops here in CA.
As for DSC, Tractive, etc, you don't have to convince me of the genius when it comes to suspension out of TPC. I've been a fan of their work for nearly 20 years now...every car of theirs I've spent time with—and some of them a lot of time with—has been nothing less than brilliant. If I ever do a full-on road car suspension the right way, there's a very good chance the car will be shipped to Maryland. And that says a lot, as there are good shops here in CA.
#139
Another point of view from someone who DOES NOT plan on tracking their car.
I wanted the lower look as my car did not come with SPASM. After reviewing the options and talking to some folks I went with the Tech-Art springs. The car rides BETTER than stock and LOOKS better than stock. As far as handling is concerned - it handles well enough for the street. I have yet to hold anyone up in the corners...
I wanted the lower look as my car did not come with SPASM. After reviewing the options and talking to some folks I went with the Tech-Art springs. The car rides BETTER than stock and LOOKS better than stock. As far as handling is concerned - it handles well enough for the street. I have yet to hold anyone up in the corners...
#140
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Another point of view from someone who DOES NOT plan on tracking their car.
I wanted the lower look as my car did not come with SPASM. After reviewing the options and talking to some folks I went with the Tech-Art springs. The car rides BETTER than stock and LOOKS better than stock. As far as handling is concerned - it handles well enough for the street. I have yet to hold anyone up in the corners...
I wanted the lower look as my car did not come with SPASM. After reviewing the options and talking to some folks I went with the Tech-Art springs. The car rides BETTER than stock and LOOKS better than stock. As far as handling is concerned - it handles well enough for the street. I have yet to hold anyone up in the corners...
#141
Rennlist Member
following as I'm considering either spring or full coilover on my 991.1. My previous cars all had full coilover as Springs didn't do as much as coilovers could.
#143
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#144
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#145
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2018 991.2 Targa 4S PASM
H & R were to low changed back to stock immediately after seeing it sorry no pictures. Was only looking for slight decrease in height similar to the SPASM but this was to low. Front looked very low. Wheels cleared fender but on angle car appeared to be sitting on the wheels. Would need spacers.
After the fact research including this thread Techart would most likely have been perfect but wiil keep stock for now given the purpose of the Targa and other GT cars soon to be delivered.
H & R were to low changed back to stock immediately after seeing it sorry no pictures. Was only looking for slight decrease in height similar to the SPASM but this was to low. Front looked very low. Wheels cleared fender but on angle car appeared to be sitting on the wheels. Would need spacers.
After the fact research including this thread Techart would most likely have been perfect but wiil keep stock for now given the purpose of the Targa and other GT cars soon to be delivered.
#146
Racer
Been reading through this thread, a lot of info to sift through and unpack.
I'm looking to buy a 991.1 Turbo soon, and it comes with standard 10mm drop PASM. I plan mostly street and canyon driving with an occasional track day here and there. I'm gathering tech art springs are probably my best option?
I'm looking to buy a 991.1 Turbo soon, and it comes with standard 10mm drop PASM. I plan mostly street and canyon driving with an occasional track day here and there. I'm gathering tech art springs are probably my best option?
#147
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Been reading through this thread, a lot of info to sift through and unpack.
I'm looking to buy a 991.1 Turbo soon, and it comes with standard 10mm drop PASM. I plan mostly street and canyon driving with an occasional track day here and there. I'm gathering tech art springs are probably my best option?
I'm looking to buy a 991.1 Turbo soon, and it comes with standard 10mm drop PASM. I plan mostly street and canyon driving with an occasional track day here and there. I'm gathering tech art springs are probably my best option?
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#148
Yes! Unless you want to spend thousands more on an adjustable set up that will only benefit you on the track at higher speeds... I am more than happy with the Tech Arts for street performance driving!
Been reading through this thread, a lot of info to sift through and unpack.
I'm looking to buy a 991.1 Turbo soon, and it comes with standard 10mm drop PASM. I plan mostly street and canyon driving with an occasional track day here and there. I'm gathering tech art springs are probably my best option?
I'm looking to buy a 991.1 Turbo soon, and it comes with standard 10mm drop PASM. I plan mostly street and canyon driving with an occasional track day here and there. I'm gathering tech art springs are probably my best option?
#150
Just got these bad boys to go over Tractive Coilovers.
75 N/mm Front and 150 N/mm Rear
75 N/mm Front and 150 N/mm Rear