View Poll Results: In favor of a separate 991.2 forum?
Yes
104
56.22%
No
76
41.08%
Neutral
5
2.70%
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In favor of a separate 991.2 forum?
12-12-2015, 08:51 PM
#46
Three Wheelin'
i voted no before even reading this thread. i'm a moderator at an italian motorcycle forum and this kind of thing comes up all the time. the two cars will share parts, they're both 991s, and forum members CAN learn and be taught to label their headers as they should (991.2). IF they don't, that's where the MODERATORS are SUPPOSED to step in to either re-title the subject lines, or provide guidance, support, and direction as needed. i think it's good to keep the community together as opposed to thinning it out, at least at this juncture.
12-12-2015, 09:00 PM
#47
Race Director
Originally Posted by chuck911
Not that they care all that much. They're clearly on a mission- sorry, e-mission- and the 911 just ain't all that anymore.
Yup! Sad, but true.
12-12-2015, 09:40 PM
#48
Banned
It isn't there fault. They have to comply with big brother. I can see the day when petroleum vehicles will only be driven on weekends and special events due to regulations. https://www.sciencenews.org/article/...climate-accord
12-12-2015, 10:14 PM
#49
I voted no because there are other parts of the car that are the same that doesn't warrant its own subforum. The cayenne forum is the original, facelift AND the new plus the newest facelift. If you guys are so offended by the .2 talk that it shoots your wheels off, just don't read the ones pertaining to it. Aren't we all one big family?
12-13-2015, 12:18 AM
#50
Originally Posted by Archimedes
Except this is just not true, as I pointed out in the last debate about this topic. The two motors share almost no identical parts at all. There is an article I linked to in that thread that compares the motors and outlines the differences. Pistons, valve trains, cams, intake, exhausts, new cylinder liners, new crankcase, new oil pan, new oil pump, everything is new. And the turbo is obviously a big change that will make the motor perform very differently. And the RWS is new. And the electric power steering has been revamped, and the PCM is all new, and the drive mode selector and modes are new, and...
Yes, they're both flat sixes of very similar design, which one would expect, but it is a new motor with new components throughout.
Yes, they're both flat sixes of very similar design, which one would expect, but it is a new motor with new components throughout.
12-13-2015, 01:06 AM
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997.1 and 997.2 are lumped together despite the "drastic" change in motor between .1 and .2. No one is complaining there. It sounds like the purists are just butt hurt over the turbo-only 911 and want to make a fuss over nothing. It's still a 991 and therefore one forum is appropriate.
12-13-2015, 01:15 AM
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997.1 and 997.2 are lumped together despite the "drastic" change in motor between .1 and .2. No one is complaining there. It sounds like the purists are just butt hurt over the turbo-only 911 and want to make a fuss over nothing. It's still a 991 and therefore one forum is appropriate.
12-13-2015, 02:41 AM
#53
997.1 and 997.2 are lumped together despite the "drastic" change in motor between .1 and .2. No one is complaining there. It sounds like the purists are just butt hurt over the turbo-only 911 and want to make a fuss over nothing. It's still a 991 and therefore one forum is appropriate.
12-13-2015, 08:32 AM
#54
Instructor
Thread Starter
The motivation for splitting the forum would simply to make it more efficient for members to share information relevant to them. Given the significant difference in these cars, there are going to be a lot of threads that are only relevant to one of the two owner groups. That's the reason why it might make sense to split them. Nothing more than that.
12-13-2015, 09:32 AM
#55
United we stand, divided we fall.
There is so much overlap in the ownership experience of the .1 and .2 that the difference is like, well, 0.1!
Thee are truly different variations of the same car. As more .2's hit the road the novelty will fade and the common traits will naturally unite the groups.
There is so much overlap in the ownership experience of the .1 and .2 that the difference is like, well, 0.1!
Thee are truly different variations of the same car. As more .2's hit the road the novelty will fade and the common traits will naturally unite the groups.
12-13-2015, 10:44 AM
#56
The guys who have a .2 ought to weigh in.... If I had a .2, it may be very handy to drill into the most topical info. Doesn't matter which is *better*. They are both best! Both 911. Forums are about info, chatter, and (for me) learning about my car from others. The more specific the Intel is to my model, the more helpful & relevent the forum is. And I think, helpful/relevent is the lifeblood of this whole deal: lose that and the membership dies. Nothing sadder than watching a forum dry up because they lost relevance/community interest.
In other words, if another forum takes the lead on helpful .2 conversation, that's the beginning of the end for the ones unable to keep up.
Afterthought: votes speak for themselves. Give the people what they want
In other words, if another forum takes the lead on helpful .2 conversation, that's the beginning of the end for the ones unable to keep up.
Afterthought: votes speak for themselves. Give the people what they want
12-13-2015, 10:47 AM
#57
Burning Brakes
I voted no because I feel like there is still enough similarity between the two that both camps would still gain knowledge from each other. When you split boards, you lose volume on the old one (of course), so we may lose the critical mass needed to really keep things going. This is just my humble opinion.
12-13-2015, 10:55 AM
#58
Instructor
I voted no because I feel like there is still enough similarity between the two that both camps would still gain knowledge from each other. When you split boards, you lose volume on the old one (of course), so we may lose the critical mass needed to really keep things going. This is just my humble opinion.
12-13-2015, 12:13 PM
#59
RL Community Team
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12-13-2015, 12:16 PM
#60
A lot of people here have real issues ignoring threads that are irrelevant / uninteresting to them. I have been following rennlist for a much longer time than I have been participating. This 991 forum has some characters that will essentially dry it up. I'm from the GT forums, I've learned a lot about my 997 GT3s from 996 GT guys. There are so many OT threads here, whether watches, Steve McQueen, etc., than I've ever seen anywhere else. People ask for help, and more than often get śhit on. So many non value adding posts, people chiming in just to chime in, and this thread is no different.
Get over it. The .1 & .2 are 991 cars. With many many similarities. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know Porsche.
Get over it. The .1 & .2 are 991 cars. With many many similarities. Anyone who thinks otherwise doesn't know Porsche.