991 Base Owners- Are you happy with your car?
12-05-2015, 12:24 AM
#32
Honest answer? It's okay. It's not bad. But it's not great.
I live in Toronto and I went with the Porsche recommended snow tires for the enormous 20" wheels that came with the car. They are performance snow tires (the only kind Porsche specifies for the 991) and with the crazy width of the wheels, 295 rear, they're decent. But not amazing.
On completely snow covered roads (like right after a big snowfall before it's been cleared) where you can't see the pavement at all it's a bit touch and go. On steep uphills if you come to a stop you can't get going again. If you're headed downhill you might not be able to stop.
But on roads where it's slushy or where you can see some pavement you're basically okay.
But anyone who has the Porsche OE recommend Michelin Alpine or Pirellis Sottozeros on their car who says it's amazing in the snow is lying.
It's okay, but not great.
I live in Toronto and I went with the Porsche recommended snow tires for the enormous 20" wheels that came with the car. They are performance snow tires (the only kind Porsche specifies for the 991) and with the crazy width of the wheels, 295 rear, they're decent. But not amazing.
On completely snow covered roads (like right after a big snowfall before it's been cleared) where you can't see the pavement at all it's a bit touch and go. On steep uphills if you come to a stop you can't get going again. If you're headed downhill you might not be able to stop.
But on roads where it's slushy or where you can see some pavement you're basically okay.
But anyone who has the Porsche OE recommend Michelin Alpine or Pirellis Sottozeros on their car who says it's amazing in the snow is lying.
It's okay, but not great.
12-05-2015, 12:25 AM
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12-05-2015, 04:08 AM
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I love it. I drove the S and GTS. Admittedly the S and GTS are amazing machines but for what I "needed" and wanted for the now, the base is an awesome car. I put in yellow seat belts and couldn't be happier. This will definitely hold me over until I can convince the wife to let me upgrade to a GT3...
12-05-2015, 08:07 AM
#36
I was speaking with a friend yesterday who buys cars for a major dealer chain including Porsches and he told me that he does not buy manual cars because he can't get them certified if they have ever been over revved and he cannot tell that without hooking it up to a dealer diagnostic system. He also told me that despite that issue the manual cars will often bring more money than PDK cars. I might also mention that there is apparently a glut of cars coming off lease and prices are way down.
12-05-2015, 08:57 AM
#37
Honest answer? It's okay. It's not bad. But it's not great.
I live in Toronto and I went with the Porsche recommended snow tires for the enormous 20" wheels that came with the car. They are performance snow tires (the only kind Porsche specifies for the 991) and with the crazy width of the wheels, 295 rear, they're decent. But not amazing.
On completely snow covered roads (like right after a big snowfall before it's been cleared) where you can't see the pavement at all it's a bit touch and go. On steep uphills if you come to a stop you can't get going again. If you're headed downhill you might not be able to stop.
But on roads where it's slushy or where you can see some pavement you're basically okay.
But anyone who has the Porsche OE recommend Michelin Alpine or Pirellis Sottozeros on their car who says it's amazing in the snow is lying.
It's okay, but not great.
I live in Toronto and I went with the Porsche recommended snow tires for the enormous 20" wheels that came with the car. They are performance snow tires (the only kind Porsche specifies for the 991) and with the crazy width of the wheels, 295 rear, they're decent. But not amazing.
On completely snow covered roads (like right after a big snowfall before it's been cleared) where you can't see the pavement at all it's a bit touch and go. On steep uphills if you come to a stop you can't get going again. If you're headed downhill you might not be able to stop.
But on roads where it's slushy or where you can see some pavement you're basically okay.
But anyone who has the Porsche OE recommend Michelin Alpine or Pirellis Sottozeros on their car who says it's amazing in the snow is lying.
It's okay, but not great.
thanks! i had a 03 c4s that was a beast in the snow. no problems at all except clearance issues, but always felt solid with snow tires. I'm looking to repeat that with a 991 and thought i could get away with a base c2, but maybe not?
12-05-2015, 02:45 PM
#38
Yeah, I think AWD would make a big difference over RWD. Plus I'd assume your 12 year old C4S would have had smaller/narrower tires? 17"? I think the big problem with the C2 in the snow is the width of the tires. They're just massive and the Michelin or Pirelli snow tires are not that aggressive. Now if Nokia made a 20" Hakkapaletia, then we'd be talking.
12-05-2015, 03:53 PM
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I just sold my beautiful 2015 991 base.
2 reasons:
1) I made the huge mistake of getting the PDK. Even for daily driving and heavy LA traffic I was always missing the manual
2) low end torque is a joke especially for daily driving
I am now waiting for the .2 to test drive and then decide on my next P car
2 reasons:
1) I made the huge mistake of getting the PDK. Even for daily driving and heavy LA traffic I was always missing the manual
2) low end torque is a joke especially for daily driving
I am now waiting for the .2 to test drive and then decide on my next P car
12-05-2015, 04:23 PM
#41
Always. I find rev matching and heel-toe-ing much easier with the increased throttle response of Sport mode.
I also tend to keep it out of Sport+ as I like to be in control of the revs (although the auto-rev-match is very cool).
I also tend to keep it out of Sport+ as I like to be in control of the revs (although the auto-rev-match is very cool).
12-05-2015, 11:42 PM
#42
Huh. Feel completely the opposite. Come from 15 years of driving manual and I love the PDK. Would never go back to manual. Love using the paddles constantly. Totally happy with the amount of low end torque too.
12-06-2015, 12:33 PM
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I just sold my beautiful 2015 991 base.
2 reasons:
1) I made the huge mistake of getting the PDK. Even for daily driving and heavy LA traffic I was always missing the manual
2) low end torque is a joke especially for daily driving
I am now waiting for the .2 to test drive and then decide on my next P car
2 reasons:
1) I made the huge mistake of getting the PDK. Even for daily driving and heavy LA traffic I was always missing the manual
2) low end torque is a joke especially for daily driving
I am now waiting for the .2 to test drive and then decide on my next P car
Nothing worse than not being happy with your new car decision. Sorry the 911 didn't work out.
12-06-2015, 12:38 PM
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12-07-2015, 10:18 PM
#45
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I got a base '13 with MT and am completely satisfied. I like the high reving character and purity without all the electronic aids. Could you go faster with more power and higher tech suspension? Sure. If money were no object I'd get a GTS and check every box. But the base car is completely wonderful and well balanced, including financially. It probably borders on too much power to be useable for the street, but maybe I'm just trying to wear out the P0's so I can justify a new set of Michelins. I guess a C4 would fix that too, but its not the driving experience I'm looking for.
I got a base '13 with MT and am completely satisfied. I like the high reving character and purity without all the electronic aids. Could you go faster with more power and higher tech suspension? Sure. If money were no object I'd get a GTS and check every box. But the base car is completely wonderful and well balanced, including financially. It probably borders on too much power to be useable for the street, but maybe I'm just trying to wear out the P0's so I can justify a new set of Michelins. I guess a C4 would fix that too, but its not the driving experience I'm looking for.
