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Old 11-21-2015, 05:11 PM
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Default Brake Caliper Bolts - What are you doing?

Since it is recommended that whenever a caliper bolt is removed (to change pads or rotors) that they should be replaced with new.

I am curious if those that track are changing the bolts with each pad change. I believe that the recommendation may be due to an expected normal service interval with many heat cycles and corrosion. Since it adds about $80 to the part costs, I would like some opinions.

What are you doing?
Old 11-21-2015, 05:59 PM
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All makers do that, for liability reasons. I have never replaced them based on that - and have done countless swap-in/swap-outs on street vs track pads, etc. The key really is to torque them correctly each time. Too tight and you get some stretch and weakening of the threads. Too loose and they can back out. I use a 3/8" Snap On Electronic Torque Wrench and that's one of the few things I actually try to torque correctly on the car!
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I replaced the bolts with stainless studs. Now the caliper slides easily over the studs and is secured with bolts. It's MUCH easier to change pads now and there is no risk of damaging the alloy upright by possibly misthreading the OEM bolts. One of the best mods I have done. Not cheap, but worth it.

http://www.tarett.com/items/996-997-...csk-detail.htm
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Originally Posted by BradB
I replaced the bolts with stainless studs. Now the caliper slides easily over the studs and is secured with bolts. It's MUCH easier to change pads now and there is no risk of damaging the alloy upright by possibly misthreading the OEM bolts. One of the best mods I have done. Not cheap, but worth it.

http://www.tarett.com/items/996-997-...csk-detail.htm
Great tip, I didn't know these existed. Curious as to the torque used to secure the nut.
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Originally Posted by 991carreradriver
Great tip, I didn't know these existed. Curious as to the torque used to secure the nut.
54 ft lbs.

It's a great mod. Reduces brake pad changing process time by half. No more blind searching trying to properly screw the steel bolt into the alloy upright. That was often scary!

If you are just changing pads once or twice in the lifetime if the car it's not really cost effective. But if you change pads for track events, even just a couple a season, they are well worth it.
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I usually just change mine after 4-5 brake pad swaps just to be safe. The bolts are pretty cheap.
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Originally Posted by shizzle
I usually just change mine after 4-5 brake pad swaps just to be safe. The bolts are pretty cheap.
This.
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Originally Posted by BradB
54 ft lbs.

It's a great mod. Reduces brake pad changing process time by half. No more blind searching trying to properly screw the steel bolt into the alloy upright. That was often scary!

If you are just changing pads once or twice in the lifetime if the car it's not really cost effective. But if you change pads for track events, even just a couple a season, they are well worth it.
This is a MUST DO on the 997 GT3 forum for anyone that changes their pads ... many owners have had problems with the bolts stretching and/or damaging the threads...
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Originally Posted by BradB
54 ft lbs.

It's a great mod. Reduces brake pad changing process time by half. No more blind searching trying to properly screw the steel bolt into the alloy upright. That was often scary!

If you are just changing pads once or twice in the lifetime if the car it's not really cost effective. But if you change pads for track events, even just a couple a season, they are well worth it.
How are the bolts torqued into the alloy upright?
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Originally Posted by 991carreradriver
How are the bolts torqued into the alloy upright?
You simply thread those in and tighten to 5 ft lbs. Loctite is provided. It's the same process you would use for wheel studs, for example.
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Originally Posted by 991carreradriver
How are the bolts torqued into the alloy upright?
http://www.tarett.com/images/bcs%20instalation.pdf
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Originally Posted by BradB
You simply thread those in and tighten to 5 ft lbs. Loctite is provided. It's the same process you would use for wheel studs, for example.
Thank you, I have been struggling with what to buy myself for Xmas, you solved the problem. The 991 brake pad replacement was such a step back from the previous models.
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Originally Posted by 991carreradriver
The 991 brake pad replacement was such a step back from the previous models.
Boy, ain't that the truth!



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