Hold Function
Racer
Joined: Mar 2015
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Porsche's HH sucks.
The HH in the Targa is revoltingly intrusive. It needs a defeat button. Oh, as does the "have to have your foot on the brake to release the parking brake" nanny. I'm releasing the brake so the car will move, why should I have to apply the brake? Grrr.
The HH in the Targa is revoltingly intrusive. It needs a defeat button. Oh, as does the "have to have your foot on the brake to release the parking brake" nanny. I'm releasing the brake so the car will move, why should I have to apply the brake? Grrr.
Racer
Joined: Sep 2001
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If you go forward with your seatbelt on, the brake releases automatically. I enjoy this same high-tech feature in both 2003 and 1978 (!) Mercurys.
But, if I leave my garage going forward I have to crash through the wall and my car doesn't have one of those invincible clear bras on it, so I generally back out of the garage. I have a hard time turning my head and looking backward with the seatbelt fastened, so I generally don't fasten it until I'm ready to go forward.
So I'm generally annoyed with this "safety feature". But I do love the car! Just wish I could defeat a couple of nannies.
If I'm not mistaken, my '83SC will start without even pushing the clutch in... its almost lawn darts !
But, if I leave my garage going forward I have to crash through the wall and my car doesn't have one of those invincible clear bras on it, so I generally back out of the garage. I have a hard time turning my head and looking backward with the seatbelt fastened, so I generally don't fasten it until I'm ready to go forward.
So I'm generally annoyed with this "safety feature". But I do love the car! Just wish I could defeat a couple of nannies.
If I'm not mistaken, my '83SC will start without even pushing the clutch in... its almost lawn darts !
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Joined: Nov 2008
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From: Santa Cruz
^^^ Lawn darts...what a great reference. My Mom threw them away when she saw that my brothers and I were tossing them up higher than our house's roof line.
I'm with the general chorus of voices here that I at first HATED the HH on my 997.2 Targa. I didn't know what the heck was happening and stalled the car a couple of times before laying rubber when it first reared its head on a steep parking exit ramp in San Francisco. Then I was pissed that I couldn't disable it, then I learned to live with it, then grew to kind of like it. It seems like basically the same programming in my GTS, but I don't yet have many miles on it.
While I agree that it'd be nice to disable through the PCM or something, I'd probably now leave it switched on. It works a little better in my MT '14 435i.
Incidentally, I find that 40k miles or so of driving MY cars with HH has kind of screwed up my reflexes when driving my 993, a side effect that I'm not particularly happy about. Where once starting on a hill with no e-brake use was completely natural, I now find I have to think about it a little when driving the 993.
High quality problems in any case.
I'm with the general chorus of voices here that I at first HATED the HH on my 997.2 Targa. I didn't know what the heck was happening and stalled the car a couple of times before laying rubber when it first reared its head on a steep parking exit ramp in San Francisco. Then I was pissed that I couldn't disable it, then I learned to live with it, then grew to kind of like it. It seems like basically the same programming in my GTS, but I don't yet have many miles on it.
While I agree that it'd be nice to disable through the PCM or something, I'd probably now leave it switched on. It works a little better in my MT '14 435i.
Incidentally, I find that 40k miles or so of driving MY cars with HH has kind of screwed up my reflexes when driving my 993, a side effect that I'm not particularly happy about. Where once starting on a hill with no e-brake use was completely natural, I now find I have to think about it a little when driving the 993.
High quality problems in any case.
