DNorby

I have a manual transmission and I do not care at all for the "Hold" function and it many times makes it difficult to not stall when trying to drive off. I do not have my foot on the brake and I feel like I am burning up my clutch sometimes to get moving. I read the manual and I did not see anything about turning off the "Hold" function. Does anyone know how to turn this off?

Thanks,

David

Larry Cable

I dont believe it optional; I think you will have to train yourself to drive around it.

mtbscott

No. Quit fighting it and let it do its job.
Sitting at a light with hill hold engaged:
Light changes, remove foot from brake. Gently realease clutch and apply the same amount of gas pedal you normally would. Clutch/hold releases smoothly if you don't just dump and gas.

LexVan

Hill hold is very sequence dependent. Break the sequence, you bypasses HH. Best way; clutch out, gear selector in neutral, foot on brake. When ready to go, engage clutch and first gear. Off you go.

LexVan

Good info here from August:

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/8900...d-feature.html

DNorby

Thanks, I read the other posts. I guess I have to learn to let the clutch out slower when the "Hold" is on. It's unnatural for me to have my foot off the brake when on a hill. The other small problem is that I have to see if the green "Hold" is lit up on the dash. I am sure I can get use to it but it would be nice if I could turn it off. I will get over it. I will also try your suggestion of having it in neutral.

Thanks

AZ-Steve

My initial reaction to the Hill Hold feature was that I hated it. I have a very steep driveway and the feature was downright frustrating. But... toward the end of the thread that LexVan referenced are a couple of posts where it is suggested to release the clutch slower than you would on a normal (level) startup.

I tried it. It worked. Immediately. I no longer dread/fear/hate Hill Hold.

duxsi

If you don't press the gas pedal (while lifting off the clutch) the Hold Feature won't disengage in time and you will stall.
Definitely a nanny feature..

DNorby

it seems like a worthless feature to me. Having to see if the light is first on in order to let the clutch out differently will become a habit. I would love to be able to turn that feature off.

studlee

I hated it at first but ended up loving the feature. Embrace technology

jimbo1111

I really never liked it but the good thing is that the engine restarts immediately if you stall. I'm guessing start stop is integrated.

hansw

I trained myself to count one second ("one Mississippi") before releasing the clutch. The system reacts too slowly for my taste, but I got used to it over time. Works flawlessly on my BMW M5 -- brake releases the moment clutch grabs.

c_Gio

Have not driven my car yet, but wager the HH is needed since there is no manual parking brake. Tough to imagine starting on a steep incline w/o a parking brake to lift & lower as clutch grabs.... But guys have MT 991's in SanFran so HH must do the trick?

997s07

This "HOLD" function should have a on off switch on the center console button "field." It caught me by surprise the first time it was engaged. I'm getting used to it, but I think it is one silly nanny. I've asked a friend who owns a smaller race shop to look into deactivating it. If it works out, I'll chime in here.

911sccab

Porsche's HH sucks.

But it ain't going away so sadly you have to learn how to enjoy your car around this "feature". I finally, mostly, have.

I live in Pittsburgh. We have hills as steep as anything in San Francisco. I'm fine with having no HH in my '66 4-speed Mercury, the '83 911SC, the '85 Mustang GT, and my '97 F250. I'm fine with the HH in our '08 and '12 535's and my '14 Fiesta ST. I've never stalled any of those because of the HH, although the '08 535 is a little reluctant to reverse up hill. HH can be slick when it's done properly.

The HH in the Targa is revoltingly intrusive. It needs a defeat button. Oh, as does the "have to have your foot on the brake to release the parking brake" nanny. I'm releasing the brake so the car will move, why should I have to apply the brake? Grrr.