worldattorney

I'm with LexVan and John45...why YELLOW?!?! Or at least give me a $500 option for black/silver/red like Lambo does

Archimedes

No, I was referring to the actual cost of selecting that option. Yes, it is expensive, but it's not much more than many other options buyers routinely spec, most of which have no value whatsoever from a performance perspective. So the argument that this option is just too costly when you're spending $6k on leather and carbon fiber trinkets in the interior is kinda dumb.

There are pros and cons to PCCBs, but cost isn't really a big one unless your car is actually a stripper. Someone who says they couldn't afford PCCBs on a car they specced with a glass roof, full leather interior, etc., is being a little disingenuous. In fact, they could afford it, they just didn't want to spend the money on that option. To each his own.

Petevb

What you said was "cost is irrelevant". But I think you cleared what you meant up...

I don't see anyone is saying they can't afford PCCBs. They're simply saying they don't see the value. That's a personal call everyone will make for themselves, and there is no right or wrong answer. However like any financial decision it's based on cost/ benefit, and it helps to be informed...

STG

Keep in mind. An expensive upgrade that has a 100% depreciation rate. Dealers give $0 credit on these come trade in time. Like zero, zippo, zilch. I like them, but these concerns turn a lot of buyers off. <br/><br/>

008

If they brought the cost down more would spec them and they could advance the technology faster. I still regret not getting them even at $8k.

I'm fascinated to see how the carbon fiber wheels fare on the gt350r.

porschedog

I like my Bigazz Red Brembos.

ChoyV

For sure there are advantages against steel rotor. Is the cost justify those advantages? With my current income, I don't think so. But people with a lot of disposable income, then they can justify it. You have the unique look plus the talking point that your Porsche has the PCCB.

pyramid

Guess you wont find any to your satisfaction

fast1

My friends who compete nationally in SCCA always spec them: it's 30 lbs worth of performance you can't get any other way per the rules.

It's a no brainer for those who compete in SCCA racing events, but I suspect that's a small minority of 911 owners. Most of us just engage in DE events, and that's not racing, notwithstanding what some DE participants may believe.

Archimedes

No, what I said was "the cost argument is irrelevant", i.e., that the cost argument against PCCB is nonsense among people who drop more than that on bling options on their cars. I totally agree that it's up to each buyer to decide what they value, which is why the cost part is irrelevant when assessing what any option offers. When it comes to PCCB brakes, the relevant debate is what they actually offer in terms of performance, as the 'is it worth it to me' part is personal to each buyer. Just like the decision whether or not to cover the fuse box in leather.

I do think a lot of people who've never actually drive a car with PCCB brakes have no idea how they differ from steel.

Archimedes

Or maybe they just chose different options than you. My car with PCCB brakes had a lower MSRP than almost every C2S build sheet I've seen posted on this board.

STG

The big boys come on the 991.2 Carrera S now if getting them @ $8,520

sracer

STG

Because they like yellow?

deutschmick

Drove a GT3 with PCCB's and a bit later a GT3 with iron rotors; I thought I perceived an advantage with the PCCB's. That, plus the fact that I'd never had them before and wanted to try them.

I justified them to my wife by telling her they were a relative bargain compared to similar brakes on the Italian cars.