School me on why peeps buy ceramic brakes
09-05-2015, 11:21 AM
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09-05-2015, 11:37 AM
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School me on why peeps buy ceramic brakes
Cool to have
Insane replacement costs
No brake dust
$$$ option & 100% depreciation rate on them come resale
High margin option box add on for Porsche
You like yellow
It's your choice and money
Insane replacement costs
No brake dust
$$$ option & 100% depreciation rate on them come resale
High margin option box add on for Porsche
You like yellow
It's your choice and money
09-05-2015, 11:45 AM
#18
Nordschleife Master
Lots of P owners mod up their cars - carbon fiber interior, diffusers, duck tails, new rims, tint, etc. They wind up spending thousands and thousands - I am guilty as well. If I knew then what I know now, I would have said hell with the mods and spent it on PCCBs.
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09-05-2015, 11:47 AM
#19
Good summation. From a resale perspective it's one of those options that will add very little if any value to the selling price of the car. On the other hand, I suspect that resale value is not a high priority item for those who opt for the PCCB option.
09-05-2015, 02:01 PM
#20
On turn-in a worn tire makes a bigger difference due to the weight's location. If you notice the weight change worn vs new tire you'll have shot. Lightweight rims are more noticable for the same reason- location of the weight.
The bigger difference is pedal feel, light vs heavier.
09-05-2015, 02:10 PM
#21
Burning Brakes
Just cause you can't feel it doesn't mean it's not a benefit!
09-05-2015, 02:27 PM
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09-05-2015, 02:36 PM
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Ouch!
09-05-2015, 03:49 PM
#25
I see a lot of folks specing PCCB, but it wasn't something I really even considered when I ordered my GTS. Did I miss something? I can maybe see the point on a GT3 or RS, but for a primarily street vehicle, why are people buying these brakes? The cost and cost to replace has to go beyond having yellow calipers, but I don't "get it" given overall braking performance is apparently pretty comparable. Is the weight difference meaningful? Thanks for any knowledge.
PCCB is actually better for the street use (replacement cost problem for track use).
Unsprung weight makes all the differences (engine spool faster, less bounce on uneven road, cornering feels lighter, etc).
09-05-2015, 04:56 PM
#26
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Yes. But it does offer less wet weather traction as the unsprung weight is less. If you live in parts of California where it rarely rains it's not an issue.
09-05-2015, 05:30 PM
#27
Burning Brakes
You're getting far more benefit from weight transfer on acceleration and the rear engine configuration than the minuscule traction benefit from heavier rotors. Certainly the light load outweighs any potential benefit accelerating out of a corner.
09-05-2015, 08:35 PM
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From: Rennteam
Chris Harris: "What are your thoughts on PCCB"?
WR: "First I thought it was too expensive then I had it first on a 996 GT3 which I used for one year and did 30,000km. Just before I let the car go, I took it for a service and they said the brakes were like new. But then I go very gently with the brakes and since then I always have PCCB. The car rides much better & you can feel the weight not being there"
WR: "First I thought it was too expensive then I had it first on a 996 GT3 which I used for one year and did 30,000km. Just before I let the car go, I took it for a service and they said the brakes were like new. But then I go very gently with the brakes and since then I always have PCCB. The car rides much better & you can feel the weight not being there"
09-05-2015, 09:01 PM
#30
I dont notice wet braking problem on gen3 CCB for street use. I would get the 4s if wet weather traction become a concern.