Hello, I just joined the forum and am looking at getting a 991 but this new face lift is disgusting. I'm pretty disappointed in Porsche for making a dog's breakfast out of the rear end of the car. =/

If I were to purchase a 991.2, does anyone think the old engine cover will bolt on with no hassle? Also I will order ANY exhaust so that it doesn't look like that... What was Porsche thinking?

 

There are a lot of 2015 and 2016 991.1s sitting on dealers' lots, if you prefer the outgoing one... I am sure the closer we get to Sep 15 (Frankfurt opening), the more they would be willing to deal...

 

the better deals on either 991 generation will be when the base and S 991.2 are no longer the new thing and have stock sitting on dealer lots ....around spring of 2017 ...18+ months from now

there is ALWAYS another variant or improved version coming that to a well informed sophisticated buyer group ( 911 crowd ) possibly discounts what is sitting new on dealer lots ..that will NEVER change for this model

look what the value packed GTS version did to C2S sales in the past year ..if Porsche were more clever , they would make base, S and GTS versions available from day one of the 991.2 ..they will bank more total profit that way !

market a " 911 R " variant with full adjustable GT3 suspension ( sans boy racer aero/ wing and 9K NA motor but std power kit and choice of PDK or 7 sp manual ) after two model years to regenerate sustaining hype .

 

New .2 video.

http://www.abendzeitung-muenchen.de/...bfaf85cea.html

Hopefully it will look better in the flesh ......

 

Nice find. Some more screen captures of the new tail lights. They look sleepy/tired...

 

You're being too kind.

Maybe Porsche should reconsider doing facelifts. Attempting to make numerous visual enhancements is often an exercise in futility.

 

Based on these numbers, base Carrera should be pretty close to NA C2S.

 

Still not liking the vertical grill...

the grill on that Cab look horizontal

 

The fact that the video is not in the correct aspect ratio (horizontally stretched) definitely doesn't help that sleepy perception.

 

I totally disagree....They won't make more money by launching GTS at start, the GTS is a value play car towards end of cycle and works well to turn inventory before new model launches. If you launch it from day 1 the manufacturer is giving up potential markup when from a logic standpoint it's not needed yet as many want the latest model anyways and load options on the new car with the standard pricing in place. Many manufacturers have a similar approach (a option rich or value based car at a reduced msrp) towards end of model cycle with good results but it isn't the best money making approach if done at launch.

 

screen shot from video showing new PCM interface.

 

Nice find

Notable:

Exhaust placement on the S. Who knows with PSE, etc..

Daytime running lights in the headlights on all headlight versions

Standard current brake sizes

Of course, door handles, steering wheel, PCM, front bumper, rear bumper, tail lights, new wheel style, AND turbo engine.

 

It's funny . . . we've seen those center exhausts for so long and now, we see more traditional base (duel ovals) and S (round quads) pipes. I think that if the center pipes show up in production, they're going to be for the PSE option.

 

Unfortunately no. Here's a higher res picture. All vertical

 

Under the grill: