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Old 07-13-2015, 04:10 PM
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Thinking of selling. It's a unique car. Here goes:

Feature MSRP
2013 991 4S $ 105,630.00
Agate Grey Metalic $ 710.00
Espresso natural leather $ 5,200.00
PDCC w/ PASM suspension $ 4,050.00
Sport Exhaust $ 2,950.00
Heated stearing wheel $ 270.00
Park Assit front and back $ 990.00
Sport Chrono $ 1,850.00
Glass Sunroof $ 1,990.00
Power Streering Plus $ 270.00
Voice Control $ 595.00
Electric folding mirrors $ 320.00
Multi-function steering wheel $ 615.00
Power sports seats $ 2,320.00
Burmester Audio $ 5,010.00
Premium package plus $ 2,330.00
Online services $ 210.00
Sport design package $ 4,990.00
Wheels painted in exterior color $ 1,635.00
Bi-Xenon black PDLS $ 715.00
Center console in leather $ 300.00
Steering column in leather $ 465.00
Porsche crest on headrests $ 285.00
Ornamental Porsche crest $ -
Smoking package $ -
Instrument dials in black $ -
destination charge $ 950.00
Porsche Extended warranty 7 years/100K miles $ 3,200.00
$ 147,850.00
After market:
Porsche Sport mirrors $ 1,275.00
Xpel - 100% coverage, Opticoat $ 6,500.00
Prestige spectra Photosync tint $ 1,500.00
AWE Switchback exhaust $ 2,000.00
Bel Stir Plus radar and Z4 lazer shifters $ 2,500.00
Weather Tech mats $ 150.00
7/15 Spacers $ 120.00
Aluminum pedals $ 125.00
Clear side markers $ 60.00
Total invested: $ 162,080.00

Brand new tires (all 4) not above. Currently just over 25K miles. Owned it for about two years. Always garaged.

Not sure what it's worth. TIA.
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I am not sure if this helps or not, but a dealer near me (Porsche) has a similarly spec'd 2013 4s with 22K miles and they were asking $109K
Old 07-13-2015, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Cpages2
I am not sure if this helps or not, but a dealer near me (Porsche) has a similarly spec'd 2013 4s with 22K miles and they were asking $109K
Thanks. Do you have a link or the name of the dealer? I'd love to see it.
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Are you sitting down. I'd speculate 30% off of the MSRP, you will get basically nothing back on your aftermarket additions. You will take a beating, maybe $105-110K.
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Private sale you'd be looking to get 95-97K for it on a perfect day with someone who really loved the car. Dealer would give under 90K

You'd be looking at 105K if it had around 10K miles or less

All the stuff you added after the 147K sticker is a lost investment. Count that as a bonus for the next guy.

Here's the competition
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Thank you for your opinions, I value them.

It's truly an amazing car, love the MT and the sound of the exhaust with the AWE. I just got a GT3 that's the only reason I'm thinking of selling. Still undecided.

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Originally Posted by Ma991
Thank you your opinions, I value them.

It's truly an amazing car, love the MT and the sound of the exhaust with the AWE. I just got a GT3 that's the only reason I'm thinking of selling. Still undecided.
It's quite a beauty! I really like Agate too.

Gives you a bit of a different drive the than GT3. They both have their highlights. Hard choice and decisions!
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Originally Posted by STG991
It's quite a beauty! I really like Agate too.

Gives you a bit of a different drive the than GT3. They both have their highlights. Hard choice and decisions!
Thanks.

Agreed, they are both so good but so different. First world problems, I know.
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Well I have a 2014 4s and it is pretty close to yours. MSRP was 145k. Mine has 12k miles red over black leather with red stitching. Dealer offered me cough cough 90k for trade! After cussing them out they came up to 95 but won't go any higher than this. They prob can sell it certified for 105 maybe. These cars have taken a beating. I'm done buying non GT Porsche models. They don't hold their value well. My car is going in for my gt4 which should be here next month. Congrats on the gt3. Arena red right?
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Originally Posted by FrstPorsche
Well I have a 2014 4s and it is pretty close to yours. MSRP was 145k. Mine has 12k miles red over black leather with red stitching. Dealer offered me cough cough 90k for trade! After cussing them out they came up to 95 but won't go any higher than this. They prob can sell it certified for 105 maybe. These cars have taken a beating. I'm done buying non GT Porsche models. They don't hold their value well. My car is going in for my gt4 which should be here next month. Congrats on the gt3. Arena red right?
Thanks, correct. Here's a shot of the two beauties.
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sweet arena red?
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
sweet arena red?
Thanks, yes.
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The percentage depreciation drop for Porsches is pretty much in line with most other brands but because of their initial expense the dollar drop hurts more. I'm sure I'm not the only chronic car flipper here and you almost always chalk up a big loss in the first few years.
I expect the 991 will perform similarly to the 997. Drop a lot in the first few years then taper off, price of admission to the 911 club is still pretty high.
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Originally Posted by Ma991
Thanks, correct. Here's a shot of the two beauties.
Nice!!

You have the 4S with the creature comforts, bells/whistles, manual, a very fast car, back seats, and killer exhaust at any speed.

The GT3 with the PDK S, rawness, 9K redline, and even faster car even standing still.

I looked at both. Wanted the rear seats to take my kids for memorable rides. Difference in price was a consideration too. But as noted, at this time, the GT cars are doing much much better in holding value. That's GT as in above GTS ..

The "street" 991's take a BEATING in depreciation. Best value is buying a GT4 or GT3 if looking to minimize deprecation at this point.

The appeal of the "hot for sale pick of the week" thread.
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I've been shopping for a 2013 C2S or C4S for a bit. Current ask prices at the Texas dealers for 2013 CPO'd cars are in the 68-70% of MSRP range, although there are some listed for more. The ones listed at that level are selling, but the ones listed higher are sitting on the lots. I know the ones listed at the 68-70% level can be bought for a bit less. I would expect the private sale price would be lower since the warranty remaining is more limited. Of course, trade prices would be significantly less.


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