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Old Jun 11, 2015 | 09:07 AM
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I'll be taking my wheels off soon for the first time to install spacers (thanks Tony).

What is the conventional wisdom these days regarding type of socket to use - 5 sided socket or "sawtooth" socket?

Also, assuming lug bolts are 18mm, any harm in using 3/4" socket?

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Old Jun 11, 2015 | 09:38 AM
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buy this: http://www.ecstuning.com/Search/Site...hwaben/ES6225/

and a torque wrench.
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Old Jun 11, 2015 | 09:41 AM
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Nice, thanks!

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Old Jun 11, 2015 | 10:14 AM
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Dave, I thinks it is 19mm. I use a deep well 19 mm Craftsman 3/4" drive socket. I wrap the outer surface with black electrical tape to give it a little "padding" against the wheel as not to bang or chip anything. Works great.

The torque spec on the 991's 20" wheels is a staggering 118-119 ft.lbs. Very hard to break loose (but I have girly arms). So, I slip a piece of black pipe over my wrench (about 24 inches long) and they are now easy to get free.

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Old Jun 11, 2015 | 10:22 AM
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Dave, make sure you use at least one of these too. I now use 2 to keep the wheel from rotating. They are cheap. About $10 each.
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Old Jun 11, 2015 | 12:30 PM
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I agree that I also think it's 19mm. Under no circumstances should you use the 3/4" and you should have a "deep" socket. The Torque wrench is mandatory to reinstall. It is very easy to mark up the studs with even the smallest incorrect measurement. The "specialized" sockets are even better.
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Old Jun 11, 2015 | 01:44 PM
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Definitely a 5 sided socket, the 12 point sockets will damage the lug nuts.
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Old Jun 11, 2015 | 06:50 PM
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It helps to put a little dab of anti-sieze compound on the threads. Not so much to prevent this happening, but because it makes everything turn so much easier and more consistently when tightening. One dab, one time, years and years of smoothness.
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You mean a 6 sided socket?
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Yes, I meant 6 - thanks for the correction. And all the feedback.

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Originally Posted by chuck911
It helps to put a little dab of anti-sieze compound on the threads. Not so much to prevent this happening, but because it makes everything turn so much easier and more consistently when tightening. One dab, one time, years and years of smoothness.
This is horrible advice. Do not follow. The 118-119 ft.lb. torque spec is based on wheel bolts that are not lubed. Ignore this troll. He's never touched a 991.
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Oops, yes, 6 sided...
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Old Jun 11, 2015 | 10:29 PM
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Dave, make sure you use at least one of these too. I now use 2 to keep the wheel from rotating. They are cheap. About $10 each.
Where did you buy them?
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Where did you buy them?
Suncoast has them
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Originally Posted by LexVan
This is horrible advice. Do not follow. The 118-119 ft.lb. torque spec is based on wheel bolts that are not lubed. Ignore this troll. He's never touched a 991.
Never put anti-seize or any kind of grease or WD-40 on lug screws, they are designed to install dry and torque values reflect that. Lubing the threads throws all that out the window. Where you use your anti-seize (and I do religiously) is where the wheel itself touches the hub. You have dissimilar metals on the alloy and the steel or iron mounting face of the hub, and they will tend to fuse together. Ever try to remove an alloy wheel that hasn't been off the hub in a couple of years? So you put your anti-seize at those contact points (liberally) and the wheels will always come off nice when you pull them off.

As to sockets, if you don't have proper sized tools, you have no business working on your car. That may sound harsh, but its true. All you will do is mangle your fasteners, and while you may not want to spend the money for tools they are a whole lot cheaper than new factory lugs. 5-point? Sawtooth? SAE on metrics? "Just step away from the car sir, before you injure it or yourself."

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