New GTS Build: The Last NA Manual? Collector Car?
03-20-2015, 07:30 PM
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Be careful here..... The GTS comes standard with the Sport Design (non-MF) wheel in Alcantara,....so if this is what you want don't order any wheel option. (yes, I believe this is the only wheel in alcantara) You can order the Sport Design wheel in leather (same wheel, just all leather). I believe there have been a couple people here that really wanted the sport design wheel,....so they selected it on the configurator, *but* this is the all leather one, not the standard Alcantara version,....and that is what you will get if ordered, an all leather SD wheel, not what some people expected.
03-26-2015, 07:15 PM
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What a great video - thanks for posting!
I was thinking I'd be specifying the PDK after a lifetime of driving cars, and especially 911s, with three pedals. But I'm now quite sure that the right path for me is the manual. I was a little concerned about the extra gear and living with it in practice, but particularly where it is in the shift pattern it seems like no big deal. Treat the car like a six speed for the most part and use 7th as an overdrive cruise gear on the highway.
I was thinking I'd be specifying the PDK after a lifetime of driving cars, and especially 911s, with three pedals. But I'm now quite sure that the right path for me is the manual. I was a little concerned about the extra gear and living with it in practice, but particularly where it is in the shift pattern it seems like no big deal. Treat the car like a six speed for the most part and use 7th as an overdrive cruise gear on the highway.
03-26-2015, 08:02 PM
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What a great video - thanks for posting!
I was thinking I'd be specifying the PDK after a lifetime of driving cars, and especially 911s, with three pedals. But I'm now quite sure that the right path for me is the manual. I was a little concerned about the extra gear and living with it in practice, but particularly where it is in the shift pattern it seems like no big deal. Treat the car like a six speed for the most part and use 7th as an overdrive cruise gear on the highway.
I was thinking I'd be specifying the PDK after a lifetime of driving cars, and especially 911s, with three pedals. But I'm now quite sure that the right path for me is the manual. I was a little concerned about the extra gear and living with it in practice, but particularly where it is in the shift pattern it seems like no big deal. Treat the car like a six speed for the most part and use 7th as an overdrive cruise gear on the highway.
but I agree, if you *have* to have at least one manual car, this should probably be it... I would have specced manual for my GTS, but I want my wife to be able to drive it, and I have the GT3 (which she cant drive) when I feel the need to use my left foot for the purpose god intended it for!
03-26-2015, 08:09 PM
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PDK's apparently lock out 7th gear when in Sport+ (and maybe even sport, I dont recollect)... but I agree, if you *have* to have at least one manual car, this should probably be it... I would have specced manual for my GTS, but I want my wife to be able to drive it, and I have the GT3 (which she cant drive) when I feel the need to use my left foot for the purpose god intended it for!
03-26-2015, 08:11 PM
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03-26-2015, 08:42 PM
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I believe there's a few issues here at play. There may be a threshold where HP and TQ overcomes the ability of the rear wheels to manage traction well. Therefore AWD is intended as an aid to provide additional traction. Where that threshold is. Can determine whether or not AWD is needed as an aid or can be dropped. Porsche seems to think that with the high TQ of the turbo it's a must have.
As we can see with there line up. Not all 911's need AWD. The GT cars with much lower TQ seem to do just fine and even better without the use of AWD. So it seems that the added TQ is why the safety net is needed to provide additional traction and stability because of the characteristics of the vehicle.
The overall benefits of AWD also includes additional traction when launching and better traction in weather related situations.
Now the downside of having AWD is the added weight and if we look at say a 991 4s we can see that it doesn't corner as well as a regular s on the track. It simply doesn't produce faster lap times. Where one would benefit with AWD in a 4s wouldn't be for performance but for the weather related situations. Some may also benefit from the adverse affects of over-steer while on track. That's more of a drives aid for those that haven't mastered over-steer in a 911. It can be quite helpful for a non professional. As I stated before though. It's actually slower but a safer experience cornering.
On the track a GT2 would probably be the desired vehicle of choice for faster lap time. I'm sure that it would be a handful to handle in the hands of a non professional.
As we can see with there line up. Not all 911's need AWD. The GT cars with much lower TQ seem to do just fine and even better without the use of AWD. So it seems that the added TQ is why the safety net is needed to provide additional traction and stability because of the characteristics of the vehicle.
The overall benefits of AWD also includes additional traction when launching and better traction in weather related situations.
Now the downside of having AWD is the added weight and if we look at say a 991 4s we can see that it doesn't corner as well as a regular s on the track. It simply doesn't produce faster lap times. Where one would benefit with AWD in a 4s wouldn't be for performance but for the weather related situations. Some may also benefit from the adverse affects of over-steer while on track. That's more of a drives aid for those that haven't mastered over-steer in a 911. It can be quite helpful for a non professional. As I stated before though. It's actually slower but a safer experience cornering.
On the track a GT2 would probably be the desired vehicle of choice for faster lap time. I'm sure that it would be a handful to handle in the hands of a non professional.
Hard to believe today, but back when Porsche was first talking about this 300 was an awful lot of horsepower!
The other factors you mentioned are significant. That's why they make some very high power cars only RWD, while others are only AWD- and some in between, we get a choice. Intended market and use matters too. But it was efficiency that got them going there in the first place.
03-26-2015, 10:32 PM
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03-26-2015, 11:32 PM
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Love those HRE wheels. For me, the amount I love my wheels is basically directly proportional to how simple they are to clean. The coolest looking wheel sucks giant monkey ***** the instant you're down there trying to wipe tiny crevices full of brake dust. The worst were those basket-weave BBS wheels on the BMWs in the 1990s, or those goddamn spoked wheels that have actual wire spokes. The HREs look like they'd be easy to clean, nice big holes in between the spokes. You could even reach through those holes and clean the inner surface - a big plus. For me, the fewer spokes the better.
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03-27-2015, 01:35 AM
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One minor gripe is that it always uses the ~45 MPH shift point when running with cruise control active, even in Sport mode.
