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Sport Technos look good until you realize they're going the wrong way on the passenger side. It makes it just a little bit off, like a car parked with the spoiler up.
nice car if you like monotone. CPO with SC, PDK and full leather. I've not seen an umber interior in person; by pics it looks good
that lime gold one above has been floating around for a long time. Lime gold + accident pre delivery I think turns a lot of people away. I love lime gold but it is definitely not for everyone.
I stopped by to check it out today.
Good news: The interior looks OK (less terrible?) in person.
Bad news: The exterior is dinged up. The hit to the front bumper seems to have shifted it a bit; notice the gap over the turn signal. The rear bumper was also hit, and was definitely pinched against the aluminum bumper underneath. There were also a few other less-severe dings, and curbed wheels.
I did not drive it, so I can't comment on that aspect.
I am including the contact info of the salesman who showed me the car.
P.S. I just looked at the dealer's website and it looks like the front bumper was not damaged in their photos.
jwr9152 posted a car or asked me my opinion on it. He had seen it pop up and I hadn't seen it yet. Looked good in pics. 2013 C2S with under 9K miles and a HOT build. I had high hopes for it that it would be a garage queen most likely. The pictures looked very good but did see a few small things that raised my suspicion. Still, I would have bought the car off the pics if I had to and the mileage.
So since the dealer was like one hour away and needed a small drive to relax, see some cars, and help a HFS follower, why not?? I offered to see it in person for him.
So I start checking out the car and see WAY TOO many front end chips for a 9K mile car. More like a 40K one would have. My first thoughts, love to tailgate gravel trucks or tracking. Look at rotors, and deep grooves. Yup, tracking. The car was CPO'd and the paperwork noted that race brake fluid was in there which was replaced too. Front windshield had chips as did the headlights.
Sooooooo ..... this car seems to have been someone's weekend track toy. How much?? Not sure. Also, the previous owner lived near Road America too. Another red flag. I'm all for tracking and have NO issues with people that do. I'm just a FAN of knowing what you're getting with a pre-owned car though. I'd rather buy a non tracked car that was well taken care of by an owner who had it as a second "fun" car.
There were literally 100's of chips on the hood and bumper. Bad after the fact paint job or powder coated Carrera S wheels too.
So, moral of story .... do your inspections!! First time I've ran across such a low mileage car that had been tracked so much.
So, I advised to pass on this this one and left it up to him to decide. At the same time a similar car had popped up on the HFS advanced top secret search software
I passed it along. This was in TN and he flew out to see it in person. He took it from there and just posted his new BUY in the HFS Alumni thread Congrats!!
Good news: The interior looks OK (less terrible?) in person.
Bad news: The exterior is dinged up. The hit to the front bumper seems to have shifted it a bit; notice the gap over the turn signal. The rear bumper was also hit, and was definitely pinched against the aluminum bumper underneath. There were also a few other less-severe dings, and curbed wheels.
I did not drive it, so I can't comment on that aspect.
I am including the contact info of the salesman who showed me the car.
P.S. I just looked at the dealer's website and it looks like the front bumper was not damaged in their photos.
I guess some joyriding got into the wrong track
Did you have the impression that they might be receptive to lowballing?
Are they a Herb Chambers dealership? I forgot. (sorry, yes, it says so right in the picture, so let's forget about that plan).
Did you have the impression that they might be receptive to lowballing?
Are they a Herb Chambers dealership? I forgot. (sorry, yes, it says so right in the picture, so let's forget about that plan).
I was also thinking that a customer/employee did the damage; the front bumper looked recently marred.
I think they will have a very difficult time moving that car. The color combo feels like something from a 1980s Buick, and the damage on the bumpers will require more than touch-up paint.
I got a phenomenal deal on my brand-new '15 S4 at Herb Chambers Audi, but not sure how they do business at their Porsche dealerships.
Personally, that car would not even be on my radar if I were looking.
Not a bad deal if you have a limited budget and can live with a base 991 in Racing Yellow over beige with no options other than PDK and sunroof... If it was a manual, I would definitely be giving it a thumbs-up as a 997.2-price-point alternative. But PDK without SC is a tough one to swallow, especially with the lower power base model.
Found this one in Hopkins SC. It's a 2015 base with 2600 miles, and a reasonable build for my taste. The "three owners" thing is a concern (although the current owner has an interesting and benign story to explain the multiple owners and low miles). The current owner is also 28, which is another red flag. I would absolutely insist on a PPI, and the owner has no issue with this, and suggested that the local Porsche dealer (McDaniels) knows the car well. Thoughts anyone cares to offer? Thanks so much again for all of the knowledge to a newbie.
Found this one in Hopkins SC. It's a 2015 base with 2600 miles, and a reasonable build for my taste. The "three owners" thing is a concern (although the current owner has an interesting and benign story to explain the multiple owners and low miles). The current owner is also 28, which is another red flag. I would absolutely insist on a PPI, and the owner has no issue with this, and suggested that the local Porsche dealer (McDaniels) knows the car well. Thoughts anyone cares to offer? Thanks so much again for all of the knowledge to a newbie.
For $79K, you can definitely find a nice S rather than a base... Might not be 2015 (though there are really no changes since 2012.5), might be a few more miles, but I think you might enjoy the S upgrades more than a few fewer miles?
Good news: The interior looks OK (less terrible?) in person.
Bad news: The exterior is dinged up. The hit to the front bumper seems to have shifted it a bit; notice the gap over the turn signal. The rear bumper was also hit, and was definitely pinched against the aluminum bumper underneath. There were also a few other less-severe dings, and curbed wheels.
I did not drive it, so I can't comment on that aspect.
I am including the contact info of the salesman who showed me the car.
P.S. I just looked at the dealer's website and it looks like the front bumper was not damaged in their photos.
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eesh, you'd think they would have that in the shop for repairs before selling.
brown over umber is not my thing ( Im clearly on the brighter color spectrum, as you can tell by my pic) but some people love brown. won't move anytime soon with those dings though.
Milehigh981, I have to say that your car is completely gorgeous, and I hope I can find something fun like that when I get to start shopping.
I think color is a good thing.
eesh, you'd think they would have that in the shop for repairs before selling.
brown over umber is not my thing ( Im clearly on the brighter color spectrum, as you can tell by my pic) but some people love brown. won't move anytime soon with those dings though.
The funny thing was another CPO C2S was equally dinged up (I posted photos back in Oct/Nov) at the same dealer. I agree that it seems like everything would be fixed before even listing it for sale.
I have Racung Yellow, and the only other colors I really want are Lava Orange or Miami Blue
For $79K, you can definitely find a nice S rather than a base... Might not be 2015 (though there are really no changes since 2012.5), might be a few more miles, but I think you might enjoy the S upgrades more than a few fewer miles?
I have looked at some S's, and would absolutely love to have the upgrades on an S, but I found myself very happy with the base, and valuing the newness of the car and interior more than I thought I would. I also think that having the last year of the NA Carerra will help it hold value over time. It's also very hard to find S'd with a stick.
As for value retention, I don't believe for a second that a 2015 991.1 will hold its value more than any other 991.1 because it was the last year NA (other standard model year depreciation) , but if the car speaks to you, that all that matters!
05-10-2017, 03:07 PM
Congrats!!
