991S Intermediate Service $1,100?
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So, my 2012 991S is due for Intermediate Service (20,000 miles).
I call my local dealer and the following transpires:
"Hi, my 2012 991S is showing a message that the 20-thousand-mile Intermediate Service is due. Do you guys have an opening in the next couple days, and what is the cost of this service?"
"The Intermediate Service on a 991S is $825."
"$825? I thought it was just an oil change and a change of brake fluid."
"Well, that quote does not include the brake fluid part. That's another $250 or so."
"Hey, thanks a lot. I appreciate your time."
OK, guys, from the outset, I do share the opinion that if you're driving a $100K car, you shouldn't bitch too much about maintenance. It's the cost of doing business. I get it. And so if the above quote is par for the course, then I will take it in, as I do want a dealer service record on file.
BUT, from all I have read, $1,100 sounds a bit steep for an Intermediate Service, no? Thing is, this is by FAR my closest and most convenient dealer.
If these guys are way off base, as I suspect they are, then does anybody know of a good independent in the Pasadena, CA area, or heck, a DIY for the brake fluid flush?
And if my understanding about this service is off, then please let me know too. Just doesn't seem to square with my research.
Thanks all.
I call my local dealer and the following transpires:
"Hi, my 2012 991S is showing a message that the 20-thousand-mile Intermediate Service is due. Do you guys have an opening in the next couple days, and what is the cost of this service?"
"The Intermediate Service on a 991S is $825."
"$825? I thought it was just an oil change and a change of brake fluid."
"Well, that quote does not include the brake fluid part. That's another $250 or so."
"Hey, thanks a lot. I appreciate your time."
OK, guys, from the outset, I do share the opinion that if you're driving a $100K car, you shouldn't bitch too much about maintenance. It's the cost of doing business. I get it. And so if the above quote is par for the course, then I will take it in, as I do want a dealer service record on file.
BUT, from all I have read, $1,100 sounds a bit steep for an Intermediate Service, no? Thing is, this is by FAR my closest and most convenient dealer.
If these guys are way off base, as I suspect they are, then does anybody know of a good independent in the Pasadena, CA area, or heck, a DIY for the brake fluid flush?
And if my understanding about this service is off, then please let me know too. Just doesn't seem to square with my research.
Thanks all.
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Uh, mine is coming up on 20k and I'm defintely not paying $1100 for intermediate service.
I'm not cheap, but I refuse to get taken to the cleaners. Maybe to some members, $1100 is not a lot of coin, but I can think of plenty of other things I want to spend $1100 and get some value for my money.
Cheap as I am, I did last year's oil change at home on my own on a Sunday, and it was worth the time and effort. There was a recall for the gas cap, so the dealer cleared the service message while taking care of the recall so money saved.
If I can't find an Indy to do the brake flush, then I will just have the dealer do it after i do the oil change myself. Oil change is almost idiot proof, but I've never done a brake flush. Speaking for myself, probably not a good idea to start looking for a DIY on a Porsche for brakes.
Good luck in your search, and thanks for the head's up. Gotta start looking for a shop or get a quote from the 3 dealers around me regarding price.
I'm not cheap, but I refuse to get taken to the cleaners. Maybe to some members, $1100 is not a lot of coin, but I can think of plenty of other things I want to spend $1100 and get some value for my money.
Cheap as I am, I did last year's oil change at home on my own on a Sunday, and it was worth the time and effort. There was a recall for the gas cap, so the dealer cleared the service message while taking care of the recall so money saved.
If I can't find an Indy to do the brake flush, then I will just have the dealer do it after i do the oil change myself. Oil change is almost idiot proof, but I've never done a brake flush. Speaking for myself, probably not a good idea to start looking for a DIY on a Porsche for brakes.
Good luck in your search, and thanks for the head's up. Gotta start looking for a shop or get a quote from the 3 dealers around me regarding price.
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Unfortunately, that sounds about right. I got 10K service - which included oil change, brake flush, wiper blade change, air filter change, and visual inspection for $1200.
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I your area, there are a bunch of dealers, call around and find the best price. Then call who is the closest and ask why theirs is so much more and what you are getting for the extra money. They may drop their price some.
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The only reason I need a dealer is to buy the dang thing. Everything else I do myself, unless it is warranty work. Oil changes are about $80 and an hour or two of time. Brake fluid changes about $40 and couple of hours. I know this is not for everyone, but it is pretty simple to do all things considered.
If not any type of do-it-yourself person,....as others have suggested find a good independent shop,....many of them actually do a better job compared to some dealers.
If not any type of do-it-yourself person,....as others have suggested find a good independent shop,....many of them actually do a better job compared to some dealers.
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Here's a good list to keep in mind when scheduling service.
Should be pretty much an oil change and a brake flush if the car has been inservice for 2 years.
http://www.leithporsche.com/cdn.dlro...-checklist.pdf
Should be pretty much an oil change and a brake flush if the car has been inservice for 2 years.
http://www.leithporsche.com/cdn.dlro...-checklist.pdf
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OK, guys, from the outset, I do share the opinion that if you're driving a $100K car, you shouldn't bitch too much about maintenance. It's the cost of doing business. I get it. And so if the above quote is par for the course, then I will take it in, as I do want a dealer service record on file.
FWIW the 'parts' for the brake fluid flush cost $10.
The only reason I need a dealer is to buy the dang thing. Everything else I do myself, unless it is warranty work. Oil changes are about $80 and an hour or two of time. Brake fluid changes about $40 and couple of hours. I know this is not for everyone, but it is pretty simple to do all things considered.
If not any type of do-it-yourself person,....as others have suggested find a good independent shop,....many of them actually do a better job compared to some dealers.
If not any type of do-it-yourself person,....as others have suggested find a good independent shop,....many of them actually do a better job compared to some dealers.
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You can get the 20k service "kits" from suncoast (no affiliation). They have the porsche brake fluid on there as well, although there are probably a million other recommendations on this board....
http://www.suncoastparts.com/categor...ENGINMain.html
http://www.suncoastparts.com/categor...ENGINMain.html
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Unfortunately, no, that's not true. When it comes time to sell the car, a little research by the buyer may show that there is no record of a service, and they may ding you on the price to recover the cost of deferred maintenance. BTDT, as I DIY everything that I can.
Brakes are pretty simple and a fluid flush is no big deal. There's nothing wrong with paying someone to do something that you're not comfortable with - I get that. But don't let it intimidate you if it's something that you want to try.
I did the plugs (15K service) on my 993 because I figured, hey, how hard could it be? Well, it was hard. But I did it, and if I had another 993, I'd give serious thought to paying someone to do it next time. But now I can make an informed decision.
I did the plugs (15K service) on my 993 because I figured, hey, how hard could it be? Well, it was hard. But I did it, and if I had another 993, I'd give serious thought to paying someone to do it next time. But now I can make an informed decision.
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Tell the dealership all you want is an oil change, brake fluid flush and reset the computer. Should be far less than the $1,100 quote. Less than $600. Do the 2 cabin filters yourself.
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Brake flush is nothing more than bleeding off fluid at each caliper until fresh fluid appears. If you have a friend to push on the pedal then it costs no more than the fluid. If not then you buy a simple fluid pump that attaches to the reservoir. If you want to be really thorough and completely replace all the fluid that's easy too. Suck out what you can with a turkey baster, pour in new fluid (preferably of a different color) and bleed through till it comes out each caliper. Just be careful to avoid letting the reservoir run down to where air gets in the line, because even a small air bubble will affect braking. If this happens you simply fill and bleed each corner until the fluid runs clear. Could hardly be easier.
By the way, do not replace fluid when the level drops due to pad wear. Fluid level is an indication of pad wear. If you add fluid, then when pads are replaced you have to suck it out or it will overflow.
By the way, do not replace fluid when the level drops due to pad wear. Fluid level is an indication of pad wear. If you add fluid, then when pads are replaced you have to suck it out or it will overflow.
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So, my 2012 991S is due for Intermediate Service (20,000 miles).
I call my local dealer and the following transpires:
"Hi, my 2012 991S is showing a message that the 20-thousand-mile Intermediate Service is due. Do you guys have an opening in the next couple days, and what is the cost of this service?"
"The Intermediate Service on a 991S is $825."
"$825? I thought it was just an oil change and a change of brake fluid."
"Well, that quote does not include the brake fluid part. That's another $250 or so."
"Hey, thanks a lot. I appreciate your time."
OK, guys, from the outset, I do share the opinion that if you're driving a $100K car, you shouldn't bitch too much about maintenance. It's the cost of doing business. I get it. And so if the above quote is par for the course, then I will take it in, as I do want a dealer service record on file.
BUT, from all I have read, $1,100 sounds a bit steep for an Intermediate Service, no? Thing is, this is by FAR my closest and most convenient dealer.
If these guys are way off base, as I suspect they are, then does anybody know of a good independent in the Pasadena, CA area, or heck, a DIY for the brake fluid flush?
And if my understanding about this service is off, then please let me know too. Just doesn't seem to square with my research.
Thanks all.
I call my local dealer and the following transpires:
"Hi, my 2012 991S is showing a message that the 20-thousand-mile Intermediate Service is due. Do you guys have an opening in the next couple days, and what is the cost of this service?"
"The Intermediate Service on a 991S is $825."
"$825? I thought it was just an oil change and a change of brake fluid."
"Well, that quote does not include the brake fluid part. That's another $250 or so."
"Hey, thanks a lot. I appreciate your time."
OK, guys, from the outset, I do share the opinion that if you're driving a $100K car, you shouldn't bitch too much about maintenance. It's the cost of doing business. I get it. And so if the above quote is par for the course, then I will take it in, as I do want a dealer service record on file.
BUT, from all I have read, $1,100 sounds a bit steep for an Intermediate Service, no? Thing is, this is by FAR my closest and most convenient dealer.
If these guys are way off base, as I suspect they are, then does anybody know of a good independent in the Pasadena, CA area, or heck, a DIY for the brake fluid flush?
And if my understanding about this service is off, then please let me know too. Just doesn't seem to square with my research.
Thanks all.
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Exactly what i did since my car has two years and 9K miles on it. Cost was less than $450 with my PCA discount.
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Here's a good list to keep in mind when scheduling service.
Should be pretty much an oil change and a brake flush if the car has been inservice for 2 years.
http://www.leithporsche.com/cdn.dlro...-checklist.pdf
Should be pretty much an oil change and a brake flush if the car has been inservice for 2 years.
http://www.leithporsche.com/cdn.dlro...-checklist.pdf