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Old 12-07-2014, 09:23 PM
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Chuck911 has no idea. I go by what he company that warrants the motor recommends. While also change early my first time , I try to abide by what is in the book.
Old 12-07-2014, 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Anthracite4sCab
Chuck911 has no idea. I go by what he company that warrants the motor recommends. While also change early my first time , I try to abide by what is in the book.
I wouldn't throw Chuck under the bus that quick. His track record is pretty good.
Old 12-07-2014, 09:50 PM
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Mineral oil- when was the last time a Porsche was delivered with mineral oil
Old 12-08-2014, 12:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Just J
I'm always amused when people think that there's only one right answer, rather than understanding that *any* engineering solution involves making trade offs, and that each owner's constraints, goals, and priorities may be different from the model used by the engineers, leading them to a different answer that is just as "correct" for them as the engineers' answer was for the engineers.
Let me ask this then, has ANYONE here had an engine failure due to dirty oil in any Porsche due when following the recommended service levels? Or even premature engine wear caused by not-frequent-enough oil changes?

I'm on my 5th Porsche. I drove one 911 to 232,000 miles. No engine wear or failures due to lubrication issues on any of them.
Old 12-08-2014, 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by drcollie
Let me ask this then, has ANYONE here had an engine failure due to dirty oil in any Porsche due when following the recommended service levels? Or even premature engine wear caused by not-frequent-enough oil changes?

I'm on my 5th Porsche. I drove one 911 to 232,000 miles. No engine wear or failures due to lubrication issues on any of them.
What type of 911 that got you to 232,000 miles?

My experience with 986 boxster was horrid: fuel injection failure, tip failure, the last was IMS failure which required new engine.

I almost gave up on Porsche until I got to 991. So far so good, knock on wood.
Old 12-08-2014, 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Mondrian
+1 & change filter too.
Oil change is cheap - car is expensive - looks good in service record - you feel good for looking after the car.
Only downside is cost of oil & filter change which is nothing.
+1, same here.
An early first oil change is mandatory on all new cars (at least for me).
Old 12-08-2014, 08:13 AM
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One of the main reasons for me doing an early oil change on the 991 was to get the Mobil 0W40 OUT!

I wanted a better oil in there. Notice my word choice. Better oil. While 0W40 is a fine oil, I wanted something better.

Lastly, it gave me an opportunity to install an L&N Eng. billet magnetic drain plug.

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Originally Posted by LexVan
...While 0W40 is a fine oil, I wanted something better.
LexVan, what oil are you running?
Old 12-08-2014, 08:27 AM
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I f@cking love these threads. Lol....
Old 12-08-2014, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by SDaddy
LexVan, what oil are you running?
Please, go find and read my post titled something like "Used Oil Analysis on 991". I can't search now with the mobile app or I'd post a link here. Sorry.

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Old 12-08-2014, 08:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Porscheforever
What type of 911 that got you to 232,000 miles? My experience with 986 boxster was horrid: fuel injection failure, tip failure, the last was IMS failure which required new engine.I almost gave up on Porsche until I got to 991. So far so good, knock on wood.
That was a 1970 911E. At 122K miles on that car I had the transmission synchros re-done, new valve guides installed and new cam chain tensioners. Then it was good until I sold it at 232K miles. All on the original bearings, rings, pistons, etc. And that was before synthetic oils, that car was on dino oil.

The failures on your 986 were not oil-related, as you know!
Old 12-08-2014, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Scottish Pete
the advice of the many long time Porsche drivers on this list who follow their favorite uncle's advice on breaking in the engine of the family's new Studebaker back after WWII.
Couldn't have said it better myself.


Originally Posted by drcollie
I am always amused when forum members think they have it figured out better than the Porsche AG Engineers.
Maybe they stayed in a Holiday Inn Express last night?

Originally Posted by chuck911
New or rebuilt, oil should be changed at about 25 to at most 100 miles. This is when you change from the mineral oil you put in to seat the rings to the Mobil 1 that will be used from now on. Or better, you could stick with mineral oil at 25-100 and change to Mobil 1 at about a thousand.
Of course you've lost what little credibility you may have had, since the factory fill is Mobil 1 0W-40.

Originally Posted by LexVan
I'd remind you, owners like Brad and I have "skin in the game". Others here will give you advice that have not only NEVER broke in a new 991 motor, but also haven't broken in any new 911 in the past 20 plus years. Filter out the noise. Listen to the real owners and the ones with the vested interest.
So you have no evidence that your early oil change provides ANY performance or longevity benefit, yet you feel compelled to recommend it to others solely because you've 'got skin in the game' and are a 'real owner with a vested interest'. Whatever that means.

Originally Posted by Anthracite4sCab
Mineral oil- when was the last time a Porsche was delivered with mineral oil
Don't know, but it's not in any 991's.

Originally Posted by drcollie
Let me ask this then, has ANYONE here had an engine failure due to dirty oil in any Porsche due when following the recommended service levels? Or even premature engine wear caused by not-frequent-enough oil changes?

I'm on my 5th Porsche. I drove one 911 to 232,000 miles. No engine wear or failures due to lubrication issues on any of them.
No one ever has had a problem, of course.

Of course, I'll be dismissed shortly by the know-it-alls as being a troll.
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Originally Posted by drcollie
Let me ask this then, has ANYONE here had an engine failure due to dirty oil in any Porsche due when following the recommended service levels? Or even premature engine wear caused by not-frequent-enough oil changes?
Again, the assumption that there can be only one answer to a question, in this case the reason for doing an early oil change. See LexVan's answer above for just one alternative reason for doing an early oil change.
Old 12-08-2014, 10:12 AM
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Of course cars with manual transmissions that aren't yellow have fewer oil related problems...based on my experience...
Old 12-08-2014, 10:19 AM
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Thanks everyone! I'm going to follow the advise of those who recommend an early oil change and I will for sure check out LexVan's post on replacing the "standard" oil by a better quality one.


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