Cjwl

Who cares when u drive it 50 or under as in Scottsdale

MJBird993

These are not journalists. These are "bloggers" and forum participants. And they all repeat the same thing that can all be traced back to one singular source. That's not valid. No respectable journalist would report it with a single, unverified second-hand source.

Everyone seems to think it's true just because everyone on Rennlist says that it's going to happen. It's not true until it is announced by Porsche. And that hasn't happened yet.

STG

It's not a matter of if, it's when!

It's going to happen.

Rocket_boy

Agreed,....just look at BMW, Audi, MB and Porsche in all of its models outside of the sports cars.

The way I see it happening for the 911.....

First, Porsche never likes to usurp the previous generation leader for at least a couple of years, so when the new 991.2 comes out HP should be raised a bit, to say 415~420 but still behind the 991.1 GTS (430) for a couple of years. If and when the 991.2 GTS comes out it may go to ~450, only time will tell.

Second I see the engines being much smaller with twin turbos,....say around the 2.5 ~ 2.9L range. As above, HP will be raised a bit and so might be torque, but not by massive amounts. Since the engines may be a decent amount smaller the turbos will have to make up the torque deficit left behind by displacement.

I simply don't see Porsche tacking on turbos to a 3.4 or 3.8L at this time,...it would bring these engines too close to a GT3/Turbo and not save anything in fuel consumption,...quite the opposite I believe. Not exactly the goal.

I see Boxsters and Caymans running around with turbo 4's and maybe a very small turbo 6 (2.5L) for the S versions.

I don't believe a turbo 4 in the 911 would sell if it was offered even if it was a good engine,....people would want more pistons for 911 money.

My .02 and may not even be worth that.

STG

Posted somewhere before I believe.

A 6Speeder posted again. A glimpse into the near future. Bye bye NA, hello turbo. 991.2?

Karl_W944

And now when I graduate, boring sounding turbocharged 911s will be the only new 911s around, and that's wonderful, how?

$150k for a regular Carrera??

Especially since all of you have your 991s, I don't expect any of you to really understand how disappointing this is for someone like me. I mean how can you really understand when you've already got what I can only dream of ever having right now? And no amount of hard work or working as fast as possible will ever amount to a new N/A 911 because there won't be any more new N/A 911s.

I mean, let's look at this; here are the majority of you asking and pondering if you should upgrade from your C2S or C4S to a GTS, and I'm here hardly sleeping trying to finish college as fast as feasibly possible, wondering if there will still be a 911 worth anything in the future, or if I'll even be able to ever afford one the way I want one in the future.

All I'd ever want is a freaking Carrera and nothing else, power and having the most powerful car is of no concern to me whatsoever. I care about sound, throttle response, and those contribute to overall enjoyment of the driving experience for me, which I'm now going to kiss goodbye because my dreams are now crushed.

The future just keeps getting worse and worse in my opinion. I'm going to try and restrain myself and my judgement until they're actually revealed, but I'm not too hopeful.

WCE

Gee this radiator rising out of the rear deck is going to look great
I guess they can't copy the turbo's intercooler solution for the new... turbos - can't say I envy the Porsche 911 Engineers dealing with this packaging nightmare!

wwspeeds

Agreed. I bet Porsche will have a very modest power increase to each of their model lines, just like they have done historically with each generation and mid-cycle refresh. Just like the 997.2 gained direct injection over the 997.1 and thusly gained an additional 20 (C2/C4) and 25 hp (C2S/C4S), the 991.2 will get a performance/efficiency engineering update, the displacement will likely decrease (say, to 3.0 L from 3.4 and 3.4 from 3.8) and force induction will bring it up power numbers to say, 365 and 415 bhp. I bet fuel economy will take a 5 mpg bump. In the marketers eye, this is a win-win, as splashing big numbers works. It's a little unfortunate for NA engine lovers, but such is the world. Just look at what happened to BMW. Porsche just had better never play digitized induction noise through the stereo -- that is a 911 I will have difficulty buying.

W

STG

When do you graduate my friend?

Do they have a 6 month fast track program?



The turbo talk in not going over well on a lot of current owners as well...

Karl_W944

I was slated to graduate in 2017, but because i had a few roadblocks happen along the way so far, it's more likely going to be 2018-19.

I wish there was such a thing as a fast track program at LTU.

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Duke I

Not a fan of turbos. In fact, my DD X5 is the last of the NA BMW X5's. I had spec'ed out a different X5 in 2010 but could only get it with a turbo, so I opted for a NA X5 optioned outside of my preference -- it's black! A chore to keep clean, especially in winter.

Happy with my 991.

STG

You'll still be able to find plenty of nearly new NA 991's around then.

The GT3's will remain NA far past the other 911 future turbo changes.

Vise

Life is rough man. Some perspective would probably help though, if your future/dreams are destroyed because a car manufacturer is moving to FI across the board you may need to re-evaluate things a bit. Just my 2 cents.

911sccab

Well put! I like air cooled engines and 4-barrel carburetors, but not all change is bad. For cars that need more power, forced induction is very effective. I'm not sure that 911s need more power though, so the anticipated loss of throttle response and sound quality might diminish the experience more that a few extra horses help.

But the old ones (as if a 991 can be called old!) won't go away, they'll just become more special to those that prefer the flavor of good booze over the alcohol content.

STG

As someone who dreamed about 911's in jr. high school and finally got one at 44yrs old I can relate to getting close to the dream car.

I'm sure he's not on suicide watch, but there's nothing wrong with an achiever and goal setter. Something that seems to be non existent in the under 30yr old crowd these days.