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Old 10-10-2014, 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by destaccado
I was looking forward to it to get the GTS interior bling for $3600; now I see they also require some Communications package nonsense for another $4000 and basically steal any value there. With my configuration costing $128k before a discount I'm just gonna stick with my CPO C2S or trade if for a 997.2 3rs

Decent deal for anyone that doesn't have a 991 yet I guess.
agreed ... not sure why they went this route this time around?
Old 10-10-2014, 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Team Plutonium
I was waiting for this.... and I have to say I'm a bit underwhelmed. Not sure what I was expecting. But looking at my modded 991S, it;s stance (lowered), wheels, and added power (minor) with exhaust modifications I see no reason to switch things up to move to a GTS. Kinda disappointed.
This sums it up for me as well, but the fact that we are seeing the GTS now might be an indicator that we will see a 991.2 sooner than we might have thought.
I would like to test drive a GT3 at some point

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Old 10-10-2014, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by sportscentury
Not even close.
Actually I was extremely close. As in nailed it completely. Big time.

The S is about 99k stripped. Add the X51 plus the 18k the OP in question wishes for (in exchange for 30 more hp) and the theoretical car in question would have 460 hp and come in somewhere in the low 130's. The base turbo is 140 and has what, 520 hp?

So the OP in question basically is asking for another power level in the 130's when there already exists a vastly superior power level at almost the same price.
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Any number about torque
Old 10-10-2014, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by StudGarden
Actually I was extremely close. As in nailed it completely. Big time.

The S is about 99k stripped. Add the X51 plus the 18k the OP in question wishes for (in exchange for 30 more hp) and the theoretical car in question would have 460 hp and come in somewhere in the low 130's. The base turbo is 140 and has what, 520 hp?

So the OP in question basically is asking for another power level in the 130's when there already exists a vastly superior power level at almost the same price.
All true, but if you want to keep weight to 3100 lbs, with 2 wheel drive and a 7 spd manual.....
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Originally Posted by CAPTAIN 911
Any number about torque
I think its about 325, pretty good for a light car
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Old 10-10-2014, 10:58 PM
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Originally Posted by destaccado
I was looking forward to it to get the GTS interior bling for $3600; now I see they also require some Communications package nonsense for another $4000 and basically steal any value there.
Hear hear! What's totally galling is the exact same package with silver stitching does NOT require the Communications Package. So it costs $4K to get red stitching instead of silver.

I'm a long term Porsche buyer and I'm used to the silliness, but this is a new low.

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Old 10-10-2014, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DMoore
Hear hear! What's totally galling is the exact same package with silver stitching does NOT require the Communications Package. So it costs $4K to get red stitching instead of silver.

I'm a long term Porsche buyer and I'm used to the silliness, but this is a new low.

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I don't think that's the case ... If you select the silver trim it's forces you to pick the pkg...
Old 10-11-2014, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by StudGarden
Actually I was extremely close. As in nailed it completely. Big time.

The S is about 99k stripped. Add the X51 plus the 18k the OP in question wishes for (in exchange for 30 more hp) and the theoretical car in question would have 460 hp and come in somewhere in the low 130's. The base turbo is 140 and has what, 520 hp?

So the OP in question basically is asking for another power level in the 130's when there already exists a vastly superior power level at almost the same price.
Turbo starts above 150k, but the part in bold is why I said *Not even close.* With no mention of the torque difference. So I do not think we are disagreeing with each other. Some people talk about what a great value the GT3 is, but an argument could be made for the Turbo, as well.
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Originally Posted by sportscentury
Turbo starts above 150k, but the part in bold is why I said *Not even close.* With no mention of the torque difference. So I do not think we are disagreeing with each other. Some people talk about what a great value the GT3 is, but an argument could be made for the Turbo, as well.
To me the Turbo is an entirely different car. I respect the power but don't desire a forced induction 911 at all.
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Originally Posted by destaccado
To me the Turbo is an entirely different car. I respect the power but don't desire a forced induction 911 at all.
I respect the power, too. It is indeed an entirely different car.
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Originally Posted by Larry Cable
I don't think that's the case ... If you select the silver trim it's forces you to pick the pkg...
Oops -- you're right. But I still think it's exorbitant.

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Old 10-11-2014, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by sportscentury
Turbo starts above 150k, but the part in bold is why I said *Not even close.* With no mention of the torque difference. So I do not think we are disagreeing with each other. Some people talk about what a great value the GT3 is, but an argument could be made for the Turbo, as well.
I think the GTS is just what most of us expected and it is a great car. As some others have mentioned, those looking for PDKs and RWS were in a dream world. Out of curiosity, I just priced out a fairly loaded C4 GTS PDK and it came to over 150k. Originally I was going to purchase a Targa 4S and it was also around that number as I spec'd the X-51 due to the Targa's porky weight. In the end the price difference between a fairly loaded Targa 4S or GTS I built was only 10-15k so I went with a TT. A lightly equipped TT with only the must have options can be had for around 160-165k.
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Another point to consider is that while dealers may give discounts off of MSRP for the C2S and C4S, due to their limited allocations for the GTS they'll probably not be as willing to discount them as much. I was offered a 7% discount right off the bat for a C2S order from my local dealer, but was told that their GTS allocation has already been filled, while another dealer said they "might" be able to give me a 2% discount on a GTS. That 2% would pretty much have put me at either close to the pice range of a similarly equipped C2S with X51 (for the same power) of well above the price of a similarly equipped C4S without X51 (for the looks) with the discounts applied.
Old 10-11-2014, 09:23 PM
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If memory served me correctly, I remember towards the end of the 997 run there were GTS's laying around everywhere, dealers were begging to dump them; I know I know it was at end of the life cycle of the 997, and everyone was stoked about the 991. I just don't remember everyone being this ramped up about the GTS? Let alone paying MSRP


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