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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 04:51 PM
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Dear OP, also as a silicon valley technology executive, I disagree, I want none of this. I want a raw, loud, light, fast, powerful drivers car. Strip it down. Manual windows are a plus. No sunroof. So is a manual transmission. So are perlon seats with no electric adjustment. All that kinda stuff.

And for PCNA, if you can, you will! And thank you for offering some comfortable cars, I really like my new daily driver, cushy yet a little sporty cayenne!
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by coxswain
Hmm... I didn't know that Porsches are that expensive and upcharged in the Netherlands, while I've known that they are so in some Asian countries like Korea and Japan. But why is it so in the Netherlands, a neighboring country to Germany? Is it because of the import tax?
Import and/or Value Added Tax indeed varies wildly throughout the European Union. Porsche prices in Norway are insanely high for instance. Belgium is cheaper than the Netherlands (it's only 30 KM from where I live, but buying a Belgian car is an impossibility in most cases). We're still far away from 'one Europe' in many respects.
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by MJBird993
Lucky for you, I found their response on another web forum. Allow me to copy it in here.



Dear Important Technology Executive Fella,

Thank you very much for taking the time to write a letter to Porsche Cars North America concerning your upcoming purchase. We look forward to having you as a repeat customer.

As you probably know, Porsche is a German company, and as such, the Germans rightly feel that they know better than you what it is that you want. For over fifty years now, Porsche has been selling tarted-up VW Beetles for insane amounts of money, and doing very well at it. You can buy any number of cars that perform as well or better than a 911 for less money, yet many people throughout the world continue to buy the venerable 911, including many of your fellow countrymen. And for that we thank you. And them.

Our marketing department appreciates your concerns and suggestions. When we reach a point where people stop paying multiple thousands of dollars for a stopwatch on the instrument panel, or a switch to make the exhaust louder, then we will become concerned. When customers balk at the premium for different colored seat belts that cost us absolutely nothing extra to manufacture, at that time we will consider your ideas.

Until then, we'll just keep on raking in the money, putting it to you folks the way you seem to like it, and you can thank us for doing so.

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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by MJBird993
Lucky for you, I found their response on another web forum. Allow me to copy it in here.



Dear Important Technology Executive Fella,

Thank you very much for taking the time to write a letter to Porsche Cars North America concerning your upcoming purchase. We look forward to having you as a repeat customer.

As you probably know, Porsche is a German company, and as such, the Germans rightly feel that they know better than you what it is that you want. For over fifty years now, Porsche has been selling tarted-up VW Beetles for insane amounts of money, and doing very well at it. You can buy any number of cars that perform as well or better than a 911 for less money, yet many people throughout the world continue to buy the venerable 911, including many of your fellow countrymen. And for that we thank you. And them.

Our marketing department appreciates your concerns and suggestions. When we reach a point where people stop paying multiple thousands of dollars for a stopwatch on the instrument panel, or a switch to make the exhaust louder, then we will become concerned. When customers balk at the premium for different colored seat belts that cost us absolutely nothing extra to manufacture, at that time we will consider your ideas.

Until then, we'll just keep on raking in the money, putting it to you folks the way you seem to like it, and you can thank us for doing so.

Regards,
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I love this reply. Very funny.
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 09:40 PM
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I never cease to be amazed at the vast disparity in value judgements made by a group of people with seemingly one thing in common; We all bought a variant of the Porsche 991.
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by coxswain
Hmm... I didn't know that Porsches are that expensive and upcharged in the Netherlands, while I've known that they are so in some Asian countries like Korea and Japan. But why is it so in the Netherlands, a neighboring country to Germany? Is it because of the import tax?
I don't think there's a import tax...they all part of EU...it should be free trade...that's the whole idea of EU...so might be Netherlands sales tax and registration...
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Scottish Pete
With it hitting 104 degrees outside where I live, the heated seats that appear on almost every new car today are not really some thing I will ever use much.
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Even in CA it can get pretty cold at night and if you drive a convertible and want to keep the top down...the heated seats are a must...
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Old Aug 8, 2014 | 11:49 PM
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I'm always wary of people who claim to speak for their demographic or tell companies, you should listen to me because I'm your demographic.

Anyway....

I do agree that many options should be standard (and not increase the cost) of a car that starts at just under $100K. No excuse.

Beyond that, I've owned Porsches since 2005 and couldn't be happier with the overall purchase and ownership experience.

One funny little story I will tell though. Years ago, a friend of mine with a BMW got free scheduled service for the first few years. Even some expendable things (pads, wiper blades etc) were covered for free. I wrote (yes an actual letter) Porsche and asked why this was the case with my buddy's 3-series but not my new Porsche. Porsche wrote back and said, "While many other car companies need to offer incentives to get people to buy their cars, we believe the driving experience of our cars is incentive enough."

I kid you not.
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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 12:08 AM
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Not current on this, but wasn't Porsche the world's most profitable carmaker a year or so ago? If the saying people vote with their wallets holds true, then doesn't that also make them the world's best marque?
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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 12:24 AM
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Originally Posted by hawc
Years ago, a friend of mine with a BMW got free scheduled service for the first few years. Even some expendable things (pads, wiper blades etc) were covered for free. I wrote (yes an actual letter) Porsche and asked why this was the case with my buddy's 3-series but not my new Porsche. Porsche wrote back and said, "While many other car companies need to offer incentives to get people to buy their cars, we believe the driving experience of our cars is incentive enough."

I kid you not.
You should have that letter on the wall by your car. Anybody else, that letter'd be crumpled, shredded, mocked. But from Porsche? Framed.
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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 12:26 AM
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My wife has been driving me nuts with all the possible permutations of white paint for the hallway. I say porsche should save us from complexity and offer only one color: beige.

Did you know it takes 5 cows for one leather interior on a 911? Most of the hide is unsuitable due to imperfections. Save the cows!
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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 12:32 AM
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It's all about pricing power. We're talking about the most iconic sports car in history (exotics not included). If and when 911 sales start to go south, only then will you see a lot of options included in the base price.
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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 01:30 AM
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On our Kia, a little strip around the speakers pulses in different colors, in time with the music. Hard to believe that's not standard on a 991.
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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 03:44 AM
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Did you know it takes 5 cows for one leather interior on a 911
It takes 13 cows for a bently.

I think the Op had some points and I brought those up on the 241,000 911 which is becoming quite common.

I love the guy who said he had the GT3 BBQ , he waited till he got a refund for no memory in his GT3 (which it doesnt have) THEN he turned it back in. NICE!
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Old Aug 9, 2014 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Cuda911
On our Kia, a little strip around the speakers pulses in different colors, in time with the music. Hard to believe that's not standard on a 991.
Here ya go...

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