Originally Posted by 991999R

i just picked up my GT silver C2S and i must say...whats PTS????

Originally Posted by Larry Cable

I'm a GT3 driver who wants a DD and whose wife wants a cabriolet to drive at the weekends

Originally Posted by Z356

It is a mental health condition that's triggered by a terrifying event — either experiencing it or witnessing it. For me it happened when I visited my first Porsche dealer and I saw rows upon rows of bland 'Black', 'White' and...especially 'GT Silver' cars for sale! Oh, the humanity! How could these dealers order just these limited colors? In any case, Porsche has come up with a solution to this condition and offers it via their PTS 'holistic program' to us select few! Any more questions?

Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

Originally Posted by Larry Cable

I'm a GT3 driver who wants a DD and whose wife wants a cabriolet to drive at the weekends

Originally Posted by 991999R

i just picked up my GT silver C2S and i must say...whats PTS????

Originally Posted by Z356

It is a mental health condition ...
Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

Originally Posted by LSV

And this blue?

Originally Posted by Z356

It looks to me like 'Signal Yellow'. PTS color code 114. Historic early 911 long hood color. One of my favorites. I had an original paint 'Signal Yellow' 1973 911T Sunroof Coupe. I am sure someone can ask McKenna & confirm.

Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

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Originally Posted by Z356

I have exchanged some interesting emails with them today. Eventually, it went up all the way to Bob Hogan, the General Manager. It was so puzzling that I even sent an email to Daniel McKenna, the dealer principal, to see if he could shed some light on the subject! The story is a bit confusing and I am trying to get to the bottom of it before I report it here in full. In general I think McKenna is a pretty good dealership and I want to be fair to them. So I hope they provide me more information tomorrow and I'll report back to this thread on what they are saying about this PTS color!

Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

Originally Posted by Z356

...The first 991 done in that PTS 'Signal Yellow' for the US might have just arrived at a dealership here in California. A Porsche dealer in the LA area has a 4S in a color that looks suspiciously like 'Signal Yellow' to me (last two photos thanks to Rennlister AdrianJara!). However, the General Manager is insisting in personal email exchanges I had with their dealership today that it's a completely different PTS color! I'll get to the bottom of this mystery pretty soon and report back.

Originally Posted by reidry

Eduardo,

I was in LA today on business and had time to drop by McKenna Porsche in Norwalk, CA to have a look at the car in question. Parked next to it was a Signal Yellow '73 and the 991 was definitely not the same color. This 991 which the dealer professes is Signal Orange definitely has a significant orange tone, not a mustard tone like Speed Yellow, but definite orange. Inside the showroom the color appears similar to the orange taxi cabs that run around LA.

I must say the Signal Yellow '73 was striking. Regardless of the name, the color on the 991 was too orange for my taste.

YMMV.

Ryan

Originally Posted by Z356

Thanks Ryan. I like the term you used - 'professes' - re: 'Signal Orange'. I am trying to get to the bottom of this mystery. As of the last published PTS list I have dated 1/23/2014, 'Signal Orange' was not an approved PTS color! It was not even under 'feasibility check started' or 'feasibility check needed'. So we are led to believe by this dealer that since that recent 1/23/2014 date, this historic & beautiful early 911 color -- 'Signal Orange' -- has been tested & approved by Porsche and ordered, built and delivered to a dealer in California. Tall order...but stranger things have happened at Porsche!

Of course, the dealership in question could lay all doubts to rest by producing the exact color code for the paint color, which is listed in the paperwork of the vehicle received from PCNA and also marked clearly on a visible part of the vehicle. In the 997 era, the 'colour code' was on a sticker applied to the inside part of the gas lid! It might still be the case with the 991 model.

But the dealership yesterday refused to supply that information. Instead, if offered two different numbers '98' & '789' which they claimed was the color code of their car when in fact I proved to them they were general codes that pertained to metallic or non-metallic paint and the fact the exterior paint was 'paint to sample'. Neither revealed the true color code of the PTS color in question. So the sheer ignorance of the staff handling these questions, which included their general manager Bob Hogan, was simply staggering!

My initial impression when I first looked at the photos posted in the 991 forum was that the color was PTS 'Signal Yellow', which is 'available' & has color code 114. I must remind you that factory-original 'Signal Yellow' paint has a bit of 'orange' in it! It is a gorgeous, rich color and I was lucky to have owned a factory original example in that color on a 1973 911T Sunroof Coupe. The so-called 'Signal Yellow' 1973 911 that McKenna parked right next to its PTS 991 would be telling, or revealing, ONLY IF the 'Signal Yellow' paint on that early 911 was original factory paint from 1972/1973! When I owned my '73 'Signal Yellow' coupe, many of my friends used to refer to it as 'your Orange 911'! You would be surprised how many repainted/restored 911's done in 'Signal Yellow' are not truly representative of the correct, factory-original hue! 'Signal Yellow' is notorious for being hard, almost impossible, to duplicate...I learned that lesson the hard way.

I have inquiries with PCNA re: the availability of 'Signal Orange'. I truly hope I am too pessimistic and indeed 'Signal Orange' is approved & on the exterior of that 991 at McKenna! I simply love 'Signal Orange'. It's one of the most beautiful colors ever used on the early long hood 911's. So we will see. I'll keep you all posted.


Saludos,
Eduardo
Carmel

Originally Posted by Z356

I am betting that it is PTS 'Signal Yellow' - color code 114. The dealership is saying it's 'Signal Orange' and not providing any details on the color code.
Eduardo
Carmel

Originally Posted by GJ

The color of this car at McKenna is Signal Yellow, #114. Confirmed by PCNA.....

Originally Posted by mcsmcs1

Yet another pathetic dealer. I mean why not go to the trouble to just look at the paint code on the car and answer the question directly or just check the build sheet? Jerks And wrong of course on top of it all. They assured people it was Signal Orange out of pure ignorance.

Originally Posted by 991999R

how to eat crow

http://www.businessweek.com/articles...melissa-perfit

Originally Posted by MarcusG

I just talked to one of the guys at McKenna. He looked at the paint code and it says Signal Orange.

Paint to Sample.

There you have it.

PTS baby.