FORENN

Great post ^^^.

The GTS will have to be stacked at a great price to beat the 911_50 in this regard. I guess we'll see. But I can't imagine it will be anywhere near as limited, as Porsche is well aware of how popular the 997 GTS was (and still is).

FORENN

Fixed it for ya!

But seriously, at that modest price difference, I think you have to pony up and go TT.

FORENN

Yup, that's often how it goes.

Looks are entirely a matter of personal preference, of course. But the rear spoiler on the GT3 is too much for me. As Nick said in one of his review videos, there is something about the lines of the 911 with the rear spoiler retracted. No rear spoiler is my preference, but the one on the Turbo is subdued compared to that of the GT3. Regardless, I can't imagine a rear seat in the GT3 and perhaps your dealer could not imagine it either. And, regardless, we're talking about a very different kind of 911 now. I understand he progression from CS2 to CS4 to TT, but...

Fair enough. And I would feel similarly.

I agree with these three points. And your C4S build is also less expensive, of course. But the question is whether these factors trump what the TT brings to the table for a relatively modest $14K increase in price. If you were interested in an MT, then I could better understand the debate here, but since you prefer an automatic tranny to begin with, the TT would seem like the clear choice here.

ajag

Have you test driven them back to back? It's not even a comparison performance-wise, the turbo is obviously faster, but it also handles better w/ the RWS. So it comes down to looks and sound, essentially. I highly doubt you will regret your choice if you go w/ the turbo, but you will very likely w/ the C4S.

fester

Fast? It's all about the feel/handling/responsiveness (NA engine) and the looks! C4S hands down nails it and once it's in sport+ it's a monster. You can load it up with all the options, and it's a perfect car! I'd give low end torque to Turbo/TurboS.

pyramid

Clearly not, that's why c4s still entertaining (based on the price difference is not OP's concern).
As for the looks, will never know what's missing until looking at it side by side in person. Even I'm not that amaze looking at Turbo S sitting by itself. But side by side with regular carreras made me realize how completely pale they compared to Turbo/s

I have made both mistakes above and took the bite. Really tough hanging out on this great forum

chuck911

Yeah, too bad they crap out on top.

handful

V6 1.6 liter arh! but we'll be saving the planet....

Mcx

For the (relatively) small price difference, I would go for the Turbo all day… although I have not driven one yet, I am a big fan of the flexibility and mid range torque that a modern turbo puts out. Ooh and the wide body too.. nice. Get the sports mirrors though.. Good luck choosing.

Suzy991

Yeah... For sure we save the planet.... Mercedes is using 23 heavy loaded trucks to move all the equipment across Europe. And that's just Mercedes... There are 12 Formula 1 teams, not even speaking about all the rest of equipment that has to be moved!
They should make those hospitallity units a bit smaller... Saves the planet a lot more! What's wrong with a trailer or a van? LOL! Now they build a complete portable village every two weeks.

Suzy (via iOS app)

bccars

You're just jealous the F1 circus still comes to Belgium but not to Holland or Switzerland Suzy ;-)

Suzy991

Hahaha, no, don't worry I actually like Belgium more than Holland (I've lived in Belgium as well). Besides that, Spa-Francorchamps is one of the most beautiful tracks in the world (better than the Nordschleife).

But now back on topic...

To Turbo or not, is a decision only one person can make. Just try to drive both and you'll know what you like.

Suzy (via iOS app)

ipse dixit

I'm going to try and add my 2 cents to this as I just went through this very decision before deciding on the C4S.

Both are great cars, and after having driven both for extended periods of time, for me the C4S was just a better daily driver. Don't get me wrong, the TT is a fabulous car -- and of all the Porsches out there it might provide the best bang for the buck -- but when just tooling around town, it was (for lack of a better word) a bit twitchy. Almost as if it was too fast for just driving to work, or slogging along the interstate in rush hour traffic.

If I had two cars (I don't) and I could save one for the weekend/track, then the TT would be a no-brainer over a heavily optioned C4S (which mine was). But I have only time/space/money in my life for one car, and for me the C4S was the best of both worlds, without having to make (too many) compromises.

Also, fwiw, my insurance was less expensive with the C4S.

Hope that helps and good luck.

Pcar991

Like most here seeking advice you have a very tough choice to make. One thing I've noticed about this board is that people don't try to force their opinion/bias on you. Everyone is mature enough to try and give you an objective answer to your questions. This is very refreshing. I am fairly new here and struggled in a similar way over C2S vs C4S. The only problem is that there really is no clear "right" answer for any one person. As with any highly optionable items its easy to end up at the top (Turbo S!) because each additional option on the lower spec gets you that much closer to the "next" model on the food chain. Many of the points are very valid but ultimately you will be living with the car. Best advice always is to go and test drive all the models you are contemplating. I found the Porsche dealerships and the salespeople are very accommodating. You are, after all, spending an obsene amount of money on a car. Ask your sales guy to prep back to back test drives. You may find that the Turbo, despite all its pluses and power is too big (wide) or simply too fast for your daily needs. The Turbo no longer shares the body with the C4(S) it is wider still.

Good luck and happy choosing =)

odurandina

life's tough choices....

I think the op, and other guilty-by-association types might head over to the nearest 991 dealer,

get behind the wheel of a GT3, and floor it. just let 'er rip, and leave a healthy patch...

when you're done tearing up the Launchpad, ask the dude if the Turbo is faster.


and this from one of the paid member forums...




*to the op and you all; God bless.... I'm just having a bit of fun at your expense. if we can't laugh at our absurdness,
what again can we laugh at. hope there's no hard feelings, and best wishes on your significant purchase.