Targa = Cabrio hump back
#1
Wordsmith
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Targa = Cabrio hump back
I perhaps set my sites too high, but I was looking forward to the 991 Targa as being two things:
1. based on the coupe for lightness and rigidity with a manual roof panel and hatchback access
2. elegant, graceful and a statement of the 911 as a versatile sports car
I fear what I see today is none of these aspirations. I wonder if Porsche simply capped the cabrio with a hatch and simply is too young in its staff to know what the targa has been as a 911.
I also expected it to arrive as a 2015 model (at this late date) and herald the 991.2 upgrades, especially if the forthcoming 991.1 GT3 brings the steering feel and handling described by Harris Monkey, et al.
They could even have gone with a soft window version (all manual) and I would have been standing on my seat applauding. But this ungainly humpback is none of the above. It seems to have been stillborn from the marketing department as a cash-in on the 991 to give the showroom sales something new, but not new.
As the intro video honestly depicts it, this Targa is as unevolved as the subconscious image of an escalator ride into a vagina; the Edsel of 911's.
1. based on the coupe for lightness and rigidity with a manual roof panel and hatchback access
2. elegant, graceful and a statement of the 911 as a versatile sports car
I fear what I see today is none of these aspirations. I wonder if Porsche simply capped the cabrio with a hatch and simply is too young in its staff to know what the targa has been as a 911.
I also expected it to arrive as a 2015 model (at this late date) and herald the 991.2 upgrades, especially if the forthcoming 991.1 GT3 brings the steering feel and handling described by Harris Monkey, et al.
They could even have gone with a soft window version (all manual) and I would have been standing on my seat applauding. But this ungainly humpback is none of the above. It seems to have been stillborn from the marketing department as a cash-in on the 991 to give the showroom sales something new, but not new.
As the intro video honestly depicts it, this Targa is as unevolved as the subconscious image of an escalator ride into a vagina; the Edsel of 911's.
#3
Burning Brakes
I love it, personally... perhaps my favorite iteration of the 991... and I like them all very much. Of course, I've always had a soft spot for the classic Targa's, and this is clearly reminiscent of the pre 993 Targa.
#5
The Targa model has been based on the cab for 20 years, now it seems to share even more parts with some of the folding mechanism, or at least be conceptually similar. Personally I like the lines, although don't know if I will be trading in my 991 C2 with a glass roof. The extra weight of the targa, plus awd etc might not be worth it. Plus, I really enjoy the natural light of the glass roof, really improves the spaciousness of a (relatively) small vehicle.
To me, the new Targa is a modern take on the original - folding cloth top that completely disappears with a structural roll bar. So, to sum up:
991 with glass sun roof = 997, 996, 993 targa
991 targa = original targa
To me, the new Targa is a modern take on the original - folding cloth top that completely disappears with a structural roll bar. So, to sum up:
991 with glass sun roof = 997, 996, 993 targa
991 targa = original targa
#7
I perhaps set my sites too high, but I was looking forward to the 991 Targa as being two things:
1. based on the coupe for lightness and rigidity with a manual roof panel and hatchback access
2. elegant, graceful and a statement of the 911 as a versatile sports car
I fear what I see today is none of these aspirations. I wonder if Porsche simply capped the cabrio with a hatch and simply is too young in its staff to know what the targa has been as a 911.
1. based on the coupe for lightness and rigidity with a manual roof panel and hatchback access
2. elegant, graceful and a statement of the 911 as a versatile sports car
I fear what I see today is none of these aspirations. I wonder if Porsche simply capped the cabrio with a hatch and simply is too young in its staff to know what the targa has been as a 911.
As I recall, one of your main concerns about the 991 Targa would be the angle of the rear seats, to see if they actually were less upright than those on your 991 cabriolet. I have taken some still shots of the presentation today by Porsche CEO Matthias Müller in the Detroit Auto Show, which can be seen in full at this thread:
https://rennlist.com/forums/991/7920...-2014-a-2.html
Let me know what you think of the angle of those rear seats vs your old 991 cab!
They could even have gone with a soft window version (all manual) and I would have been standing on my seat applauding. But this ungainly humpback is none of the above. It seems to have been stillborn from the marketing department as a cash-in on the 991 to give the showroom sales something new, but not new.
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#8
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So many different surface materials in those photos. One too many, IMHO.
#9
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jlanka....nice looking car. Got to love a guy who builds a C4S with a Powerkit AND Aerokit - deviating stitching and red belts. To me anyway, that is the ultimate 4 season 911...but everytime I go build one on the configurator to do that I say to myself "is that what that adds up too...?!"
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jlanka....nice looking car. Got to love a guy who builds a C4S with a Powerkit AND Aerokit - deviating stitching and red belts. To me anyway, that is the ultimate 4 season 911...but everytime I go build one on the configurator to do that I say to myself "is that what that adds up too...?!"
#15
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I agree, I will have to see it in person, but based off the Video I think it is the best looking 991, not so much on the 997. I am glad it is a true Targa, even though you lose the versatility of the 997 Targa.