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Old 12-14-2013, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Tapeworm
I have a 991 C4S that I'm also breaking in (~700 miles so far). Yes, I think the engine is quite rough between 2,000 and 3,000, although it does seem to be 'loosening up' over time - or maybe I'm getting use to it.

There is a thread about manual cars having a camshaft sensor update that you might also be hitting:

https://rennlist.com/forums/991/7556...-starting.html

I would not worry about occasionally using more revs during break-in, these cars are used for demos and driving training without being broken in and have no adverse conditions later in their life.

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I had the sensor problem fixed on my 2014 C2S a couple weeks ago. I haven't noticed anything like the OP is describing, smooth thru all gears
Old 12-14-2013, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Maverick1
One salesperson said that you should break in a Porsche like you intend to drive it.
Put him on "ignore".
Old 12-15-2013, 09:40 AM
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My understanding is Sport Plus is for the track only. My car has PDK and only shifts up just before it red lines in Sport+
Old 12-15-2013, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Sir5n
My understanding is Sport Plus is for the track only. My car has PDK and only shifts up just before it red lines in Sport+
Speak for yourself... once warmed up that button is on with every drive on my car.
Old 12-15-2013, 04:47 PM
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I drive a 7MT C2S and I also engage sport plus whenever I get behind the wheel. I like the more responsive throttle feel and rev matching. I don't notice any hesitation in accelerating from 2k - 3k RPM.
Old 12-16-2013, 06:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Maverick1
Just to let you all know, there is no way of knowing whether your new Porsche has ever been revved higher than what is called for during the break in period.

Not 100% sure, but I think you are right. I believe only overrevs are logged.

Originally Posted by Maverick1
I was also told that all engines are tested at the factory to various rpms, so I don't think for a second that occasionally revving the engine higher than the recommended by Porsche would hurt it one bit.
One salesperson said that you should break in a Porsche like you intend to drive it.
If I recall correctly from my factory visit some months ago, when we are talking about ALL engines, there is a compression test, then a cold (no combustion) run to see if everything fits.
Can't recall if they still take sample engines on the testbench for a hot run, so not going to comment on that. I am sure though they take about 10% of the completed cars from the line on the road for a testdrive.
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Originally Posted by Maverick1
Just to let you all know, there is no way of knowing whether your new Porsche has ever been revved higher than what is called for during the break in period.
Sure they can. One over-rev would be over the brake-in limit (4,200 rpm). That's why Porsche's DME can log over-revs in several ranges; to potentially deny warranty claims on abused engines.

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Old 12-16-2013, 08:51 AM
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Hesitation and stumbling are usually problems associated with engine calibration, not engine damage. If your engine isn't smoking or making any knocking noises, continue to break it in and stop worrying about it. Hopefully in time the factory will have a better calibration and can re-flash the PCM to resolve the issue.
Old 12-16-2013, 11:00 PM
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Spoke with my mechanic today about the issue. He did say that starting 2nd gear at 2,000 rpm is definitely lugging the engine but that I should still be getting smooth power delivery. He doesn't have access to the latest software so he is recommending that I complete the break in process and then take it in to the dealer to have the software re-flashed.

Anyways I have been waiting until I get up to the high 3,000s (almost 4,000) before shifting out of first and I don't notice the issue if I start 2nd at above 2,600 rpm. Other than that I'm having a great time with the car as I learn to drive it. If they can't fix it I don't think it will even be an issue for me because I don't want to lug the engine anyways.
Old 12-16-2013, 11:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Team Plutonium
Speak for yourself... once warmed up that button is on with every drive on my car.
Spirited driving during the break in period wouldn't be the norm. Setting the car performance levels at it's highest and keeping the RPM's in check well below the red line…. well I'm not sure that's going to go well.
Push the PSE and enjoy the note! Glad to hear your technician has positive input for you.
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here is the current documentary of the porsche factory 911 assemble part 5 which is at the end, go to 4 minute mark

Old 12-20-2013, 05:55 PM
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go to part 3/5 of NatGeo Ultimate Factories
Old 12-20-2013, 07:55 PM
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Originally Posted by eg991
I drive a 7MT C2S and I also engage sport plus whenever I get behind the wheel. I like the more responsive throttle feel and rev matching. I don't notice any hesitation in accelerating from 2k - 3k RPM.
Same here. The gears wind up nice and smoothly with my 7MT C2S. I broke the car in as recommended and now am enjoying its potential whenever possible.



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