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Old 01-10-2014, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Nicoli35
Well actually they did keep it a few days, driving the engine, after install to check things out. I wonder if they did this already? They put about 50 miles on the engine before I drove her home. I forgot to mention this earlier, sorry. Great info from Chuck though. sent with iOS using Rennlist
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Now the question is...
Do you follow porsche break-in, or
Drive it like you stole it?
Old 01-11-2014, 12:26 AM
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Old 01-11-2014, 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Dyim
Now the question is...
Do you follow porsche break-in, or
Drive it like you stole it?
Well whatever he does I just hope he'll be ready to wring it out at the PNWR Practice Autocross on Feb 22nd in Bremerton. http://www.pnwr.org/calendar07/displ...14&Window=Same Its free! Instructors available all day! Break-in nirvana!
Old 01-11-2014, 02:07 AM
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Originally Posted by chuck911
Well whatever he does I just hope he'll be ready to wring it out at the PNWR Practice Autocross on Feb 22nd in Bremerton. http://www.pnwr.org/calendar07/displ...14&Window=Same Its free! Instructors available all day! Break-in nirvana!
12-hour weekend day shifts as plant security for a local MARSEC industrial concern aside, that would be great.
Old 01-11-2014, 10:56 AM
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I would not only demand a powerkit engine, but also additional cash to compensate you for diminished value as you will own a car with non-matching numbers, which will cause you to have to sell or trade at a discount in the future.
Old 01-11-2014, 11:03 AM
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Originally Posted by parkerfe
but also additional cash to compensate you for diminished value as you will own a car with non-matching numbers, which will cause you to have to sell or trade at a discount in the future.
Not true, IMO. Non issue. The 991 is not a 356.
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Originally Posted by Nicoli35
Well actually they did keep it a few days, driving the engine, after install to check things out. I wonder if they did this already? They put about 50 miles on the engine before I drove her home. I forgot to mention this earlier, sorry. Great info from Chuck though. sent with iOS using Rennlist
50 miles? Hmmm. Don't listen to me. I'm always suspicious.
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Old 01-11-2014, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by parkerfe
I would not only demand a powerkit engine, but also additional cash to compensate you for diminished value as you will own a car with non-matching numbers, which will cause you to have to sell or trade at a discount in the future.
Only collectors and concours guys care about matching numbers enough to pony up for 'em. Both groups also want everything just as delivered from the factory. From that tiny niche perspective this car was 'compromised' long ago. Trying to sell the car right now might ring some bells, but Nicoli loves it, drives it, and so by the time he gets round to selling it will be just another well cared for 991, only with a little bit fresher engine than the odometer would suggest. In terms of eventual resale, given the circumstances and documentation, its likely a wash or depending on the buyer maybe even a slight plus. If I had two identical cars to choose from and one had a newer factory motor I know which one I would want.
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Originally Posted by Nicoli35
12-hour weekend day shifts as plant security for a local MARSEC industrial concern aside, that would be great.
Sounds like somebody needs to take a 'sick' day….
Old 01-11-2014, 04:04 PM
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Not true, IMO. Non issue. The 991 is not a 356.
Doesn't matter. A non-matching car is worth less regardless of its age or collect-ability. I've obtained diminished value for clients on engine swap Japanese sedans.
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Originally Posted by chuck911
Only collectors and concours guys care about matching numbers enough to pony up for 'em. Both groups also want everything just as delivered from the factory. From that tiny niche perspective this car was 'compromised' long ago. Trying to sell the car right now might ring some bells, but Nicoli loves it, drives it, and so by the time he gets round to selling it will be just another well cared for 991, only with a little bit fresher engine than the odometer would suggest. In terms of eventual resale, given the circumstances and documentation, its likely a wash or depending on the buyer maybe even a slight plus. If I had two identical cars to choose from and one had a newer factory motor I know which one I would want.
So, you want us to believe that if you were looking at two identical 991s, one with the original engine and one with a engine swap, you would pay the same for the engine swap car? Regardless, the used car market has already spoken and devalues non-matching cars, regardless of the age or collect-ability of the car.
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Originally Posted by parkerfe

So, you want us to believe that if you were looking at two identical 991s, one with the original engine and one with a engine swap, you would pay the same for the engine swap car?
I would pay the same or more for a like-like car with a fresher motor.
Old 01-11-2014, 04:24 PM
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Yup I'd pay for the new engined car.

Just shows you how hyped up perception is. How could a car with more miles on it (it would have those same miles with the original engine) be worth less with a brand new engine?

Odd...
Old 01-11-2014, 04:44 PM
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Glad it all worked out for you. Now you can enjoy the car again!

My friend bought a 991 w/ PDK in June and it had a total transmission failure after 26 miles. Did not even get home to show his wife. Porsche and the dealer was very apologetic and had him back on the road after 6 weeks (had to wait on a new transmission from Germany). Root cause from Porsche was; the software engaged two gears at the same time.


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